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Post by beatlas231 on Aug 13, 2015 3:19:02 GMT -5
8 years ago today was Apollo C Vermouth's most "famous" post. Re: Paul Is Dead True Story « Reply #13 on Aug 12, 2007, 1:18am » Once upon a long ago, lived four young lads I'm sure you know. The other three, you know them two. You'll know me better when this is through. Before the band was on the run, a natures child followed the sun. And soon the four became a three, a list of clues for those to see. A story told in fine detail, to keep the loonies on the trail. A coin, a sheep, a favored son, were welcomed guest when the day was done. Now, those days are gone, the stories told, in rivers of ash, and urns of gold. A final hint to all of those, who refuse to see the Emporer's clothes.
Apollo C. VermouthIts also 49 years ago today that The Beatles gave their press conference apologizing for More Popular than Jesus. Now I don't want to get into any kind of moralizing about this or force the possibility of a supernatural answer (at least in part) onto anyone not into that sort of thing, but I'd like to post this willemaus.wordpress.com/2015/08/09/rip-frank-gifford/ and point out that the God is Dead obituary and the most commonly referenced date for Paul is Dead both happened to be on November 9th, one year apart. If you look at Apollo's post, he never references Paul is Dead, only the number 3 and follows it with what seems to be a religious Luke 15 reference in A Coin, a sheep, a favored son. Was this entirely coincidental? There Are Three, but you're only seeing Two Camera Three
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Post by beatlas231 on Aug 13, 2015 3:22:09 GMT -5
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Post by Will on Aug 13, 2015 11:47:19 GMT -5
Well now Iameye-type person I'm not sure that I was asking whether or not God was dead but yes its another great example... IAMaphoney. God is Dead and Paul is Dead, all mixed up together.
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Post by beatlas231 on Aug 14, 2015 3:09:58 GMT -5
Well now Iameye-type person I'm not sure that I was asking whether or not God was dead but yes its another great example... IAMaphoney. God is Dead and Paul is Dead, all mixed up together.
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Post by beatlas231 on Aug 14, 2015 3:11:45 GMT -5
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Post by Will on Aug 14, 2015 14:09:19 GMT -5
I'll take that as a definitive maybe...
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Post by sniffer on Aug 17, 2015 5:55:20 GMT -5
"It was a fake mouchtas"
Yup, those fake mouchtases are awful. a REAL mouchtas would never disappoint you - they cost about twice as much, but totally worth it.
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Post by Will on Aug 18, 2015 0:03:09 GMT -5
Jane Asher's Door circa 1964-- COE LSDInteresting story...the question is what story were they trying to tell?
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Post by Will on Aug 21, 2015 14:42:11 GMT -5
qz.com/485018/nasa-would-like-to-assure-everyone-that-a-giant-asteroid-is-not-about-to-destroy-earth/Apparently Nasa has now had to formally debunk next month's Sept.22/Sept 23 end of days predictions by stating that no, an Asteroid is not about to hit the earth. Now, although the clues are very interesting I'm not one of the people buying into this, however something like this... ...does have a certain significance to me, but I think it's being applied wrongly. (Note that the Simpson's episode came out on Aleister Crowley's birthday of October 12th and the "Beatles bunker" switch being flipped off immediately following the 922 showing.) Romans 9:22--What if God, although willing to demonstrate His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction? 23And He did so to make known the riches of His glory upon vessels of mercy, which He prepared beforehand for glory,…That imo is the point of the "922". And no, not getting all preachy about this. The point is that the Pharaoh's, Esau's and Judases of the world all had this principle applied to them and far from being some ancient thing, this idea of someone being used as a pawn as part of some larger story could be taking place yet today, or in the recent past. For some unfathomable reason, John Lennon's death came about after he married a Japanese woman, happened on the anniversary of the US entry into WWII, was caused by a guy from Hawaii who bought a gun from a dealer named Ono and he died at Roosevelt hospital. Why does John Lennon track back to WWII? Well for some strange reason, John Lennon died exactly 1844 weeks from the first Atomic bomb at Hiroshima. Which is two sets of exactly 922 weeks. Even stranger, Julian Lennon was born to the day exactly 922 weeks from the Hiroshima bomb on April 8th 1963. Then maybe even more eerie given all of the precognition clues about John Lennon's death, on December 8th 1980 Julian Lennon was exactly, once again to the day, 922 weeks old. That's not an easy synchronicity to achieve, it's 17.8 years or 6454 days. But the point of Julian Lennon is that he was a little boy who happened to turn 3 on April 8th 1966, the date of the infamous Is God Dead issue of Time. [/a] He certainly doesn't seem to be on the path to destruction or anything, that fate unfortunately seems to have been reserved for his father; no he's just a kid caught in the middle of a drama he has nothing to do with. Well likewise seems to be the role of Melanie Coe: COE LSDFor all we know, Melanie Coe had absolutely nothing to do with LSD herself, but the story of She's Leaving Home and the fate of kids all over the United States (many of whom had been burning Beatle LPs just 10 months earlier following More Popular Than Jesus) who got out of school coinciding with the release of Sgt. Pepper and decided to Leave Home and go to San Francisco and turn on to the Hippie lifestyle was a perfectly created storm in 1967, now and forever known as the Summer of Love. Melanie Coe, per her Facebook page, was born on October 19th 1949. If you use your trusty Date and Time calculator and add exactly 922 weeks to her birth, like Julian Lennon, the answer comes back as June 21st 1967, better known as the first day of the Summer of Love. And it was a Wednesday, by the way. John's assertion always was that Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds wasn't meant to be LSD, it was a drawing Julian made about his school friend Lucy; and yes there really was a Lucy, and she died a few years ago on September 22nd (9/22). This is obviously a story way beyond the Beatles ability to tell, but again, what story were they trying to tell? Did Paul die, or is it all plausible deniability for God is Dead? And no I don't think Paul necessarily has to be alive for the rest of this to be real, but I do think its an honest question. Because the truth is, all of this mystery started immediately following More Popular Than Jesus and an apology for something I really don't think they were wrong about. Would a John Lennon just let that go? WMPS, some mythical Egyptian reference, or representing radio stations in the Southern US making death threats and burning Beatle LPs in August of 1966? - November 9th 1965 God is Dead----------November 9th 1966 Paul is Dead
- 3=Beatles remaining-----------3=4/8/66 Is God Dead on Julian's third B-Day
- I Was=Paul----------I Was=IAM(God)
I seen religion from Jesus to Paul, somehow God and Paul have gotten all mixed up together... Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2015 0:58:21 GMT -5
lol equinox
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Post by Will on Aug 22, 2015 1:53:51 GMT -5
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Post by B on Aug 25, 2015 13:25:31 GMT -5
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Post by sniffer on Aug 25, 2015 22:03:23 GMT -5
The other day a friend of mine said, He said that god's not even with us He said that God is really dead He said, Oh pal, a fact's a fact You can't believe that magic act I said I don't, and that was that I said
Good for God
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Post by hotman637 on Aug 26, 2015 12:33:21 GMT -5
The other day a friend of mine said, He said that god's not even with us He said that God is really dead He said, Oh pal, a fact's a fact You can't believe that magic act I said I don't, and that was that I said
Good for God As I explained a number of times God did not die she got a DIVORCE and the Devil (the ex) was bitter so he blamed her! They had a bitter divorce cause the marriage was a sham cause God is a woman and the Devil is a man1
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Post by sniffer on Aug 26, 2015 14:45:30 GMT -5
from an earlier version of the song, titled "How can I be sure" (can be found as a bonus to "Nilsson Schmilsson") The other day a friend of mine said He said, the sun's not really yellow He said, the sun is really red
I said, my friend, what do you mean?
You read that in some magazine?
Next thing you'll say the earth's not green
sniffuP!
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Post by Will on Aug 26, 2015 18:33:49 GMT -5
The other day a friend of mine said, He said that god's not even with us He said that God is really dead He said, Oh pal, a fact's a fact You can't believe that magic act I said I don't, and that was that I said
Good for God @7:55 Do It on Monday invanddis.proboards.com/thread/4205/st-paul" So Sgt. Pepper took you by surprise..." " I was the walrus but now I'm John, the dream is over" "The marching band refused to yield, do you recall what was revealed" Its quite the stretch to apply those to Paul is Dead, not so much to question whether there was something deeper they were talking about. Its not The Beatles being evil, it's freedom and maybe a little bit of fear that the death of Rock and Roll in the late 50's (Elvis-Army, Little Richard-God, Chuck Berry-some girl, Jerry Lee Lewis-cousin, Buddy Holly-plane crash, etc...) could happen again in 1966. By the Summer of 1967, that was never going to happen again. So don't take these posts as advocating something bad happening to John Lennon; I kind of land on the Beatles side in all of this, but I still think it's what happened...
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Post by Will on Aug 28, 2015 5:59:09 GMT -5
from an earlier version of the song, titled "How can I be sure" (can be found as a bonus to "Nilsson Schmilsson") The other day a friend of mine said He said, the sun's not really yellow He said, the sun is really red
I said, my friend, what do you mean?
You read that in some magazine?
Next thing you'll say the earth's not green
sniffuP!
Fun Fact: The guy who actually said "Good for God" one night and inspired Nilsson to write the song almost on the spot was Brian Wilson's old songwriting partner VanDyke Parks, who had met Wilson at a party on the lawn at 10050 Cielo Drive in 1965.
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Post by sniffer on Aug 28, 2015 13:49:55 GMT -5
Fun Fact: The guy who actually said "Good for God" one night and inspired Nilsson to write the song almost on the spot was Brian Wilson's old songwriting partner VanDyke Parks, who had met Wilson at a party on the lawn at 10050 Cielo Drive in 1965. ... while "Helter Skelter" was (in a roundabout way) inspired by The Who who's drummer was found dead at the flat on 9 Curzon square, on the day following a party organized by someone. Fun Indeed. Fun fact number 2: Harry Nilsson's first son is called Zak. Full name: Zachary Nine Nilsson
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Post by Will on Aug 29, 2015 10:02:15 GMT -5
And yet he was... ...and Keith Moon wasn't the first artist to die there either.
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Post by sniffer on Aug 29, 2015 11:11:47 GMT -5
because he couldn't keep clear
He got no mama He got no papa Good for God
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Post by sniffer on Aug 29, 2015 14:08:27 GMT -5
Bang, bang, shoot em' up, destiny
Bang, bang, shoot em' up to the moon
Bang, bang, shoot em' up one, two, three
(One, two, three, four!)
That's what I wanted to be But now that I am a spaceman Nobody cares about me
Won't 'cha bring me back down Safely to the sea Is all she ever say to me
I wanted to make a good run I wanted to go to the moon I knew that it had to be fun I told 'em to send me real soon I wanted to be a spaceman I wanted to be it so bad But now that I am a spaceman I'd rather be back on the pad
Hey Mother Earth Won't 'cha bring me back down Safely to the sea 'round and around and around and around Is just a lot of lunacy
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Post by sniffer on Aug 29, 2015 16:22:08 GMT -5
Its quite the stretch to apply those to Paul is Dead, not so much to question whether there was something deeper they were talking about. Its not The Beatles being evil, it's freedom and maybe a little bit of fear that the death of Rock and Roll in the late 50's (Elvis-Army, Little Richard-God, Chuck Berry-some girl, Jerry Lee Lewis-cousin, Buddy Holly-plane crash, etc...) could happen again in 1966. By the Summer of 1967, that was never going to happen again. Don't forget Eddie Cochran - perhaps the most revolutionary of the early rockers, in that he was the first to produce himself and use double-tracking, and who was killed 1960 in a car accident in England, involving a driver called, bizarrely enough, George Martin. Cochran is, of course, the author of "20 flight Rock", the rendition of which earned young Paul McCartney an invite to join the Quarrymen) "quite the stretch" can be said about quite a lot of what goes on here. I guess stretchability is a relative thing... Apply rabbit-hole physics and the rubber-band still holds I don't know if they knew just what they were up against they had every reason to be paranoid The Summer of 1967 was indeed a watershed but I believe the war was far from over Ambush
The lamp that lights the way Is a light from yesterday. *for the too-lazy-to-click: Ringo plays drums on this song. "The drum which leads the way is the sound of "Yesterday"
The road is filled with shadows Of a million, living leaves. Darkness all around us And not a friend in sight.
We sang a song together To help us through the night. The song was sung with spirit
And as the others sang along, Our voices lifted higher. We sang until we reached the bridge We crossed, then saw the wire.
But by the time we stopped the song, The enemy had opened fire.
Now, we ain't gonna sing that song no more Ain't gonna sing that song no more. Just don't pay to sing no more Especially when you're in a war. A war.
(spoken):Now, this time through, We want everybody to listen to the punchline All right. All right. All right! All right! There is a punchline? All right, we're all ears The song was sung with spirit But soft and like a choir. But by the time we stopped the song, The enemy had opened fire.
Now, we ain't gonna sing that song no more. Ain't gonna sing that song no more. Just don't pay to sing no more. Especially when you're in a war.so...he repeats the last verse no new information, just repeating what he said in case we missed it. Right? Or maybe it's the way he says - or rather, sings it - the second time. I haven't found a video of the song online but if you listen to it, on the last two verses his voice and phrasing sound- to my humble ears - very very much like "Oh Darling"/"Wildlife" McCartney
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Post by Will on Aug 29, 2015 17:54:55 GMT -5
Its quite the stretch to apply those to Paul is Dead, not so much to question whether there was something deeper they were talking about. Its not The Beatles being evil, it's freedom and maybe a little bit of fear that the death of Rock and Roll in the late 50's (Elvis-Army, Little Richard-God, Chuck Berry-some girl, Jerry Lee Lewis-cousin, Buddy Holly-plane crash, etc...) could happen again in 1966. By the Summer of 1967, that was never going to happen again. Don't forget Eddie Cochran - perhaps the most revolutionary of the early rockers, in that he was the first to produce himself and use double-tracking, and who was killed 1960 in a car accident in England, involving a driver called, bizarrely enough, George Martin. Cochran is, of course, the author of "20 flight Rock", the rendition of which earned young Paul McCartney an invite to join the Quarrymen) "quite the stretch" can be said about quite a lot of what goes on here. I guess stretchability is a relative thing... Apply rabbit-hole physics and the rubber-band still holds I don't know if they knew just what they were up against they had every reason to be paranoid The Summer of 1967 was indeed a watershed but I believe the war was far from over Ambush
The lamp that lights the way Is a light from yesterday. *for the to-lazy-to-click: Ringo plays drums on this song. "The drum which leads the way is the sound of "Yesterday"
The road is filled with shadows Of a million, living leaves. Darkness all around us And not a friend in sight.
We sang a song together To help us through the night. The song was sung with spirit
And as the others sang along, Our voices lifted higher. We sang until we reached the bridge We crossed, then saw the wire.
But by the time we stopped the song, The enemy had opened fire.
Now, we ain't gonna sing that song no more Ain't gonna sing that song no more. Just don't pay to sing no more Especially when you're in a war. A war.
(spoken):Now, this time through, We want everybody to listen to the punchline All right. All right. All right! All right! There is a punchline? All right, we're all ears The song was sung with spirit But soft and like a choir. But by the time we stopped the song, The enemy had opened fire.
Now, we ain't gonna sing that song no more. Ain't gonna sing that song no more. Just don't pay to sing no more. Especially when you're in a war.so...he repeats the last verse no new information, just repeating what he said in case we missed it. Right? Or maybe it's the way he says - or rather, sings it - the second time. I haven't found a video of the song online but if you listen to it, on the last two verses his voice and phrasing sound- to my humble ears - very very much like "Oh Darling"/"Wildlife" McCartney
Now we're getting somewhere. Harry Nilsson definitely would be someone close enough to be privy to what was actually taking place and what they were really on about. These things that happen, such as the fate of Keith Moon and Mama Cass, sometimes can kind of serve as a breadcrumb trail back to the people in on the story. Tafultong made a post years ago regarding Nilsson and Pussy Cats in which he spotlighted not only the D Rug S on the front cover but the person holding out the Sgt. Pepper cover on the IS Gate, with said person's fingers blocking the BE in Beatles, leaving the ATL and the ES. In fact John at the end had become very fond of referring to the Beatles as the Bees, which is of course Beatles with the ATL taken out. Hidden in plain sight indeed. I think there are plenty of clues that do directly refer to Paul is Dead regardless of someone's take on what PID means, so I don't mean it to be disrespectful, but there are a number of clues and cryptic references that seem to relate to something other than PID and some try to dump those clues into the same bucket, instead of seeing that there could be another theme that this relates to. We don't care what flag you're waving We don't even wanna know your name We don't care where you're from or where you're going All we know is that you came
You're makin' all our decisions We have just one request to you That while you're thinking things over Here's something you just got to do
Free the people now Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it now
Well, we were caught with our hands in the air Don't despair, paranoia is everywhere We can shake it with love when we're scared So let's shout it aloud like a prayer
Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it now Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it now
We don't care what rules you're playing We don't even wanna play your game You think you're cool, you don't know what you're doing And 666 is your name
So while you're jerking off each other You bear this thought in mind Your time has come, you better know it But maybe you just can't read the sign
Free the people now Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, now
Well, you were caught with your hands in the till And you still got to swallow your pill As you slip and you slide down the hill On the blood of the people you killed
Stop the killing now, stop the killing now Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it now Do it, do it, do it, do it now Do it, do it, do it, do it now Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it
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Post by Will on Aug 29, 2015 18:51:28 GMT -5
Understanding that the Atlanta reference may sound a bit outlandish, here are some more Atlanta references. Love To You All -Sonja Finland From the cover of Rotogravure, the album came with a magnifying glass and Apollo had mentioned that there was one specific clue that was all you needed. When discussing the album, Ringo specifically mentioned Finland when discussing what was on the door that was of interest. Ringo: Neil Aspinall took it and sent us one each an I thought, "I'm gonna put it on the back of the album." It's a front door, but it's a back door too. It's got all these names scrawled on it from Finland. That's why you're getting a magnifying glass with the album, so you can read it all. And I thought it would be a nice bit of fun, especially for those who actually wrote on it. It used to be so smart, with a doorman and a pretty letterbox, and now it's just...yeah!Paul's Run Devil Run cover uses a store in Atlanta. Amoeba's Secret says NOPID, but then under it says ATLAnd although most of us are familiar with the Revolution Number 9 synchronicity of John Lennon's death being announced during a Monday Night Football broadcast, only made possible because an ABC employee crashed his motorcycle and happened to be in the ER at Roosevelt when John Lennon came in, not as many are familiar with the NBC version of the same announcement; a Tonight Show rerun in which Johnny was speaking Flames from the burning of Atlanta when the announcer broke in. Edit...and yeah a guy just fell from the upper deck and died at Turner Field in Atlanta. And because they didn't stop the game and it happened in the Top of the 7th, they played The Devil Went Down to Georgia during the 7th inning stretch, as is the tradition in Atlanta, while they worked on him.
Nothing symbolic there...like Iamaphoney and the fires, anyone goes down a certain rabbit hole and weird shit starts happening. Could be apophenia I suppose...but its not. RIP to the victim. What I think John was saying in Bring on the Lucie was that these aren't pawns, they're people.
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Post by sniffer on Aug 30, 2015 6:35:07 GMT -5
Well, we were caught with our hands in the air Don't despair, paranoia is everywhere We can shake it with love when we're scared So let's shout it aloud like a prayer
Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it now Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it now
Lennon used that "shout/prayer" before, on Sunday Bloody SundayIt feels like a cross between is interest in commercial slogans ("Cry baby cry, make your mother buy") and spiritual mantras, shot at the listener like bullets from a machine gun. It's interesting that he uses of "do it" out of context - or rather pre-context: only at the third verse does he get to the actual action he wishes performed - "Give Ireland to the Irish", before that, it's just a "do it. do it. doitdoitdoit!" On the Smothers Brothers show, Nilsson once said@5:27) "first of all, you have to get to know your song take it apart, put it back together again, keep it clean cause some day in battle, it might save your life" The Beatles were of the first generation of young Brits not to be conscripted but funnily enough, just before they "hit the big time" (some would say *in order* to hit the big time) they were put in uniform. And that uniform seemed to mean a whole lot to a lot of people. "Beatles suits" and "Beatle boots" and Mop-tops - the latter becoming a symbol by itself, almost mirroring the Round-heads The unity of their attire gave a message that the rebel elements of Rock and Roll were somehow subdued by some sort of discipline. At the height of "Beatlemania", The Beatles were constantly "bombarded" - by reporters, photographers and fans on the street, by noise of screaming at concerts - and by Jelly Babies. The common image of them during that time is RUNNING somewhere, sometimes with their guitars strung on their backs in a manner not-unlike a soldier carrying a rifle. Reaching for a butterfly Old soldiers never die And the gun against their shoulder Well, it gets a little older And just like that old shoulder It just gets put away Well, I'm an old, forgotten soldier And I like to tell my story But you don't wanna hear about the war
I'm an old, forgotten campaign hero Left without a cause Because, they took away my wars I'm an old, forgotten railroad A broken, lonely ammo-train And my rusty ammunition Has been left out in the rain
I'm an old, forgotten part-time doughboy I tried to save the world The world was round We fired a round Heard all around the world
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