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Post by JoJo on Nov 25, 2004 8:21:05 GMT -5
I think it might work as a highly literate rap version.. ;D;D
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2004 19:08:49 GMT -5
HMMMMM...
The name Crozier has French and Scottish origins......now where else did I see one of those things? oh yes! Faul and Linda's portrait on the cover of LIFE MAGAZINE.
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Post by Doc on Nov 25, 2004 20:55:58 GMT -5
I think it might work as a highly literate rap version.. ;D;D Doctah in 'de hood. Hmmmm. Maybe Missy Elliott needs a filler track. What is happenning with Paul's face in that photo above? Is this a Bell's Palsy? That was discussed long ago......kinda severe...... Rod and recorder, and maybe, some B&B: Benedictine and Brandy? Made fresh by the monks at the abbey.......
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Post by Girl on Nov 25, 2004 21:14:48 GMT -5
Maybe a little too much B&B...
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Post by fourthousandholes on Jul 2, 2006 16:21:27 GMT -5
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Post by TotalInformation on Jul 2, 2006 16:57:39 GMT -5
Idiomatically, "Love is all you need" or more roughly "there is only need of love." Opus est "there is need of" takes an ablative of means. )Opus est: literally "there is work" + the ablative of that by which the work is to be performed.)- *Amore (love) is in the ablative and solum (only, sole) is nominative singular modifier of opus.
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Post by fourthousandholes on Jul 2, 2006 17:00:30 GMT -5
Merci buckets! ;D
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Post by tkp66 on Jul 2, 2006 17:37:13 GMT -5
Sir Faul's Coat of Arms
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Post by Doc on Jul 2, 2006 18:17:26 GMT -5
Idiomatically, "Love is all you need" or more roughly "there is only need of love." Opus est "there is need of" takes an ablative of means. )Opus est: literally "there is work" + the ablative of that by which the work is to be performed.)- *Amore (love) is in the ablative and solum (only, sole) is nominative singular modifier of opus. The sole work is love. Love is the sole work. "We did it because we loved him."
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Post by il ras on Jul 2, 2006 18:57:25 GMT -5
Don't want to play the role of the teacher but TI's translation is perfect.
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Post by thefly on Jul 2, 2006 19:02:09 GMT -5
Perhaps the 3 Beatles are referring to AFTER Lennon's death...
As Lennon sang in "Norwegian Wood" .. 'This bird has flown' and there's a recorder/flute in the song towards the end.
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Post by Doc on Jul 2, 2006 19:14:06 GMT -5
Perhaps the 3 Beatles are referring to AFTER Lennon's death... As Lennon sang in "Norwegian Wood" .. 'This bird has flown' and there's a recorder/flute in the song towards the end. Once they patented the name "The BEATLES", the patent defined the group as consisting of Richard Starkey, John Winston Lennon, George Harrison, and James Paul McCartney. Which makes we wonder about a technicality----in order to continue legally using the name, did they have to present 4 individuals possessing those names..........not, "and William A. Shepherd, the New Guy!" Of course, "Ringo Starr" is already an exception, but they were already using it when they made the patent.
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Post by JoJo on Jul 2, 2006 20:25:08 GMT -5
JoJo, What is this? Just the famous Abbey Road crossing. (Zebra?)
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Post by beatlies on Jul 3, 2006 4:06:19 GMT -5
"The Gold Bug"
Story about a beetle cipher and hidden treasure ---Edgar Allen Poe
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Post by TotalInformation on Jul 3, 2006 9:25:24 GMT -5
Once they patented the name "The BEATLES", the patent defined the group as consisting of Richard Starkey, John Winston Lennon, George Harrison, and James Paul McCartney.
When was this?
This was part of the reason why after JPM died, the PAUL MCCARTNEY corporatin had to go on...
BTW, has it been pointed out yet how Sir FAUL's coat of arms looks like a beetle?
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Post by lili on Jul 3, 2006 12:01:03 GMT -5
T.I., I guess it does. I was just about to point out how much plainer Sir Faul's coat of arms is than Sir George's.
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Post by JoJo on May 10, 2007 20:04:51 GMT -5
OK my room mate saw this on first look, as did I, with no prompting. Does it appear to anyone there that the seriffed -bunting -filligree- whatever looks like a pair of arms flipping a pair of birds? Not exactly an elegant statement....but sometimes there's no elegance to the truth........ I was just revisiting this thread after probably more than a year, and before I scrolled down to your comment Doc, I saw the same thing. (I think I totally missed this before) One "bird" is not enough it would seem?
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Post by Doc on May 11, 2007 6:03:22 GMT -5
OK my room mate saw this on first look, as did I, with no prompting. Does it appear to anyone there that the seriffed -bunting -filligree- whatever looks like a pair of arms flipping a pair of birds? Not exactly an elegant statement....but sometimes there's no elegance to the truth........ I was just revisiting this thread after probably more than a year, and before I scrolled down to your comment Doc, I saw the same thing. (I think I totally missed this before) One "bird" is not enough it would seem? A bird on the Arms is worth two on the Hands.
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Post by plastic paul on May 11, 2007 7:24:51 GMT -5
I just saw this post and yes, it looks very much like that, well spotted. The 3 Beatles are taunting us through Sir George!
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Post by Girl on Aug 6, 2009 18:51:23 GMT -5
Music staff? It's a 5-string bass.
Which is Paul's preference these days.
FIVE-STRING TASTE
"Paul now uses a Wal 5 string bass in the studio and for part of his live shows. I think it's important to take yet another page from the McCartney bass book when it comes to 5 string bass playing. There are (at least) two ways to approach the switch from 4 to 5 string bass (where the 5th string is a low B)."
Paul McCartney on recording "Free As A Bird": "I played the Wal, and what I liked was I played very, very normal bass, really out of the way, because I didn't want to 'feature'. There are one or two moments where I break a little bit loose, but mostly I try to anchor the track. There's one lovely moment when it modulates to C, so I was able to use the low C of the 5 string and that's it, the only time I use the low one, which I like, rather than just bassing out and being low, low, low. I play normal bass, and then there's this low C and the song takes off. It actually takes off anyway because a lot of harmonies come in and stuff, but it's a real cool moment that I'm proud of. That's my Wal moment."
Source: abbeyrd.best.vwh.net/paulbas2.htm
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Post by puzzled on Aug 9, 2009 20:58:36 GMT -5
This thread has been hanging around for several years now, and unfortunately nothing new has been added. I have been looking into heraldry symbolism and sadly haven't found anything useful to add.
The one thing that keeps nagging at me is the 3 beetles, vs. the 4 that should be there. Especially considering one of them is separated by "heaven" or clouds, the logical symbolism would be that the one single beetle had crossed-over.
Considering that everyone knows there are four Beatles, how can they justify showing only three?
I had attempted to identify the specific bird on the top, but can't find an exact match to it.
Frustrating. I've been looking for information pertaining to "Hermetic" Heraldry, but it is scarce. When you add the rhyming/punning on top of the already cryptic symbols, it gets rather difficult to nail down.
I'm just mentioning it in hopes that maybe some new blood can add something new to the translation?
Thanks,
Puzzled.
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Aug 10, 2009 9:43:17 GMT -5
This thread has been hanging around for several years now, and unfortunately nothing new has been added. I have been looking into heraldry symbolism and sadly haven't found anything useful to add. The one thing that keeps nagging at me is the 3 beetles, vs. the 4 that should be there. Especially considering one of them is separated by "heaven" or clouds, the logical symbolism would be that the one single beetle had crossed-over. Considering that everyone knows there are four Beatles, how can they justify showing only three? I had attempted to identify the specific bird on the top, but can't find an exact match to it.Frustrating. I've been looking for information pertaining to "Hermetic" Heraldry, but it is scarce. When you add the rhyming/punning on top of the already cryptic symbols, it gets rather difficult to nail down. I'm just mentioning it in hopes that maybe some new blood can add something new to the translation? Thanks, Puzzled. Hey puzz, According to this College of Arms site, the bird is referred to as such: "A House Martin proper holding under the sinister wing a Recorder in bend sinister mouthpiece downwards" www.college-of-arms.gov.uk/Martin.htmFrom wiki: "The House Martin (Delichon urbicum), sometimes called the Northern House Martin or Common House Martin, is a migratory passerine bird of the swallow family which breeds in Europe, north Africa and temperate Asia; and winters in sub-Saharan Africa and tropical Asia." NOTE: Kenya is in sub-Saharan Africa, but I think this is a bit of a stretch. Nothing else is really jumping out at me concerning House Martins, but feel free to have a look yourself. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_Martin
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Post by iameye on Aug 10, 2009 9:44:44 GMT -5
Facinating. Thought I'd host it so it could be put here. Three "beetles" is an obvious one for starters.. AMORE SOLUM OPUS EST pretty much translates to "all you need is love" unless I'm mistaken. stephen crane, lol bar sinister ( some people use the term "bend sinister" also) n. 1. A heraldic bend or baton sinister, held to signify bastardy. Not in technical use. 2. A hint or proof of illegitimate birth. it's funny that the bar sinister isn't in the herald field, but held under the bird's wing....and it's a woodwind
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Post by plastic paul on Aug 10, 2009 10:13:25 GMT -5
Music staff? It's a 5-string bass. Which is Paul's preference these days. FIVE-STRING TASTE "Paul now uses a Wal 5 string bass in the studio and for part of his live shows. I think it's important to take yet another page from the McCartney bass book when it comes to 5 string bass playing. There are (at least) two ways to approach the switch from 4 to 5 string bass (where the 5th string is a low B)." Paul McCartney on recording "Free As A Bird": "I played the Wal, and what I liked was I played very, very normal bass, really out of the way, because I didn't want to 'feature'. There are one or two moments where I break a little bit loose, but mostly I try to anchor the track. There's one lovely moment when it modulates to C, so I was able to use the low C of the 5 string and that's it, the only time I use the low one, which I like, rather than just bassing out and being low, low, low. I play normal bass, and then there's this low C and the song takes off. It actually takes off anyway because a lot of harmonies come in and stuff, but it's a real cool moment that I'm proud of. That's my Wal moment." Source: abbeyrd.best.vwh.net/paulbas2.htm It's a music stave for sure.
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Aug 10, 2009 10:49:19 GMT -5
Facinating. Thought I'd host it so it could be put here. Three "beetles" is an obvious one for starters.. AMORE SOLUM OPUS EST pretty much translates to "all you need is love" unless I'm mistaken. stephen crane, lol bar sinister ( some people use the term "bend sinister" also) n. 1. A heraldic bend or baton sinister, held to signify bastardy. Not in technical use. 2. A hint or proof of illegitimate birth. it's funny that the bar sinister isn't in the herald field, but held under the bird's wing....and it's a woodwind Here's some more info on heraldry, and how it pertains to the Martin Coat of Arms: In heradlry, "a bend is a colored band running from the upper right corner of the shield to the lower left (from the point of view of a person bearing the shield)." A bend sinister is a bend which runs in the other direction to a bend. As the shield would have been carried with the design facing outwards from the bearer, the bend sinister would slant in the same direction a sash worn diagonally on the left shoulder; sinister coming from the Latin and meaning left. Notice also, that the Zebra (Abbey Road zebra Xing) is carrying an Abbot's Crosier (Abbot - Abbey) in it's RIGHT front leg, just as Paul was holding the cigarette in his RIGHT hand while navigating the zebra Xing on the Abbey Road cover. Further, the Abbot's Crozier is also held in bend sinister, again, indicating LEFT (and as iameye noted, illegitimacy). The crosier is the symbol of the governing office of the Bishop (Bishop's Gate) or Apostle. In Western Christianity, the crosier is shaped like a (william) shepherd's crook. The Eastern Orthodox crosier is TAU-shaped. Much more here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CrosierThis is getting very interesting.
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