|
Post by Red Lion on Aug 25, 2004 17:57:37 GMT -5
FP would you be so kind as to post this photo in its entirety, if indeed there is more of it?
|
|
|
Post by FlamingPie on Aug 25, 2004 18:10:42 GMT -5
FP would you be so kind as to post this photo in its entirety, if indeed there is more of it? There's not much more of it, and I posted it this way because it's the face that counts, right?
|
|
|
Post by Red Lion on Aug 25, 2004 18:29:32 GMT -5
There's not much more of it, and I posted it this way because it's the face that counts, right? The face is part of it but the ears, hair, forehead etc are always useful in making a distinction between Paul/Faul. The manner in which the face is scrunched through his expression coupled with the left eye being closed makes it difficult to make an accurate determination without seeing more of the picture. After all Faul was a lookalike and he did resemble Paul in many photos.
|
|
madtitan125
For Sale
"There is no knowledge that is not power!"
Posts: 99
|
Post by madtitan125 on Aug 25, 2004 19:41:57 GMT -5
Flaming Pie, you crack me up!
How is it that you will search high and low to find one picture that MIGHT trip someone up?
I suppose if I got the answer to your question wrong, you would fool yourself into believing this somehow proves that I could be wrong about the whole thing.
Nothing personal, but it is a sad thing for you to put on public display your desperation to cling to this illusion.
You have already admitted that it is indeed another man in "some" pictures. You have publicly displayed your frustration in understanding how Paul's height "changes".
You act as if this is something personal with you. As if you are unbelieving that someone in your family is gone.
If I'm wrong that Faul and Paul are two different people, then that means basically everyone here is out of their minds, too.
Sorry Flaming Pie, we're not! I find that most of the people here that have studied the evidence come to the same conclusion: James Paul McCartney was Replaced.
Thinking about it, your inability to grasp the idea may have to do with your lack of understanding as to the "why?" of all this.
Why would anyone go to the trouble to make this happen? What group of people would have the power to make this happen? What would anyone have to gain by making sure JPM (or his image) continued here on planet Earth?
Surely, the powers-that-be saw The Beatles' unparalleled popularity as an influence that could just not be allowed to go to waste.
***this post edited to remove disruptive "political conspiracy" content. There are other forums for discussing that type of subject matter; it is prohibited here by forum rules. Thanx!
|
|
|
Post by SimMHoward on Aug 25, 2004 20:10:09 GMT -5
***this post edited to remove disruptive "political conspiracy" content. There are other forums for discussing that type of subject matter; it is prohibited here by forum rules. Thanx!
|
|
|
Post by JoJo on Aug 25, 2004 20:56:03 GMT -5
FP is one tenacious guy, I'll give him credit for his dogged determination! ;D Testing the ability to recognize "out of context" is an attempt to remove contextual details, as I've explained before, it's easy to spot a post 66 or pre 67 pic based on these clues. Aside from the fact that I'm pretty sure that I've seen this pic before, and so it's post 66, I'll comment on the fact that the details that our eye tends to zero in on to suggest that it's JPM are all here. We have the arched eyebrows, the look of the cheeks and the cleft on the chin. Beyond that, there isn't much more information. Just because it's points to JPM, with enough points of similarity, our minds discard the dissimilar parts as inconsequential. The Dec 1966 interview footage shows a what is to me a big dissimilarity; the JPM jawline is just not there, and you have to see both JPM and this alleged imposter moving their mouths from the side to see what I mean. Maybe I'll attempt a demonstration in the near future. As for all the 911 stuff, I know of what you are speaking Madtitan, and it's something I've looked into, but before this becomes 10 pages of 911 arguments, and Paul replaced gets buried by this discussion, let's save that for another board. (there are plenty)
|
|
|
Post by JoJo on Aug 25, 2004 21:24:21 GMT -5
Perhaps, JOJO......but I have seen a great deal of footage of Paul displaying similar mannerisms.......it could be vise-versa. ...Faul implementing Paul's known hand gestures, using as a stall technique/ distraction technique. Perhaps, but this rubbing the cheek while under stress, is something that is different. That's the new guy's subconscious "tic" and only his, not JPM's. Yes, Paul has his mannerisms too, and perhaps if I watch a video of pre 67 interview footage I may see something simlilar, to be fair. But I'm pretty sure this is a more or less new thing.
|
|
|
Post by FlamingPie on Aug 25, 2004 22:15:52 GMT -5
The pic of mine: I really don't know if it's Paul or "Faul", or when it was taken. Yet if it's so "obvious" to see the "differences" between them, why can't you guys point it out immediately? It wasn't really a test, I was just asking, cause I don't know.
|
|
madtitan125
For Sale
"There is no knowledge that is not power!"
Posts: 99
|
Post by madtitan125 on Aug 25, 2004 23:49:48 GMT -5
Hi! Back again. I hate to go off topic about all that mess, but it really is essential if someone is going to understand the "why" behind all this.
It's not like the three remaining Beatles just up and said "Hey, Paul's dead, but let's just replace him and keep going!"
If this scenario was just conjured up by the three of them, they wouldn't have been able to make it happen. This is something that requires some serious backup & resources.
Actually, I think if it were up to the three of them, they wouldn't have tried to hide this at all. I personally see them just as much as victims as James Paul.
In other words, I don't think the cover-up was their idea. And the execution of it was way beyond their means.
Must have been pretty horrific to have lost your close friend, then watch this gov't agent come in and assume his identity. Scary, too! Must've been super-surreal!
It's plausible to think this was planned by whomever carried this out well in advance. Certain Paul-era songs even seem to have clues about his impending disappearance.
Those songs may have been given to The Beatles to perform, while they were allowed to assume songwriting credits.
Anyway, the lie about Paul is just one of many, many the public in general actually believes. And, sorry to say, its not even one of the bigger ones!
Now about that picture Flaming Pie....that's a good one. If we're going to play games, at least give me a complete picture!
By the way, I like the clue Red Lion saw in the Penny Lane video. Faul grasping the guitar as if he was going to start playing it from a right hand posture....
He and his masters are brazen when they do these things aren't they? Remember, all we need is love!
|
|
|
Post by Admin on Aug 25, 2004 23:59:52 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by FlamingPie on Aug 26, 2004 0:52:27 GMT -5
Politics? Who was talking politics?
|
|
madtitan125
For Sale
"There is no knowledge that is not power!"
Posts: 99
|
Post by madtitan125 on Aug 26, 2004 1:24:05 GMT -5
Just for the record, I am 100 apolitical everyone!
But I guess I did go a little (a little?) off topic! Just trying to lay a little groundwork of understanding the whos, whys and hows behind an event like this. There have been others events before...!
By the way, I have to admit I am a little stumped by that picture, Flaming Pie. I've also noticed no one else has volunteered an answer, either, so I won't beat myself up too bad on that one.
I'm going to have to sleep on that one and get back to you on that. Bye for now.
|
|
|
Post by FlamingPie on Aug 26, 2004 2:00:41 GMT -5
Just for the record, I am 100 apolitical everyone! But I guess I did go a little (a little?) off topic! Just trying to lay a little groundwork of understanding the whos, whys and hows behind an event like this. There have been others events before...! By the way, I have to admit I am a little stumped by that picture, Flaming Pie. I've also noticed no one else has volunteered an answer, either, so I won't beat myself up too bad on that one. I'm going to have to sleep on that one and get back to you on that. Bye for now. There aren't any right or wrong answers because I don't know either! ;D Yet if the differences are so obvious, why don't you know?
|
|
madtitan125
For Sale
"There is no knowledge that is not power!"
Posts: 99
|
Post by madtitan125 on Aug 26, 2004 2:49:51 GMT -5
I knew this would happen! I guess you're right, Flaming...
Your picture (more like PART of a picture!) proves once and for all the its been Paul all the time. Yeah, right!
G'night all!
|
|
|
Post by FlamingPie on Aug 26, 2004 3:12:45 GMT -5
I knew this would happen! I guess you're right, Flaming... Your picture (more like PART of a picture!) proves once and for all the its been Paul all the time. Yeah, right! G'night all! I knew I would open your eyes! I was asking a question, yet you had to reply with sarcasm. If you don't know, that doesn't prove me right, it shows that after all, the differences aren't as obvious as you claim.
|
|
|
Post by southpaw on Aug 26, 2004 3:42:05 GMT -5
Hey, Flaming Pie you said that there wasn't "much more" of that pic. I'd like to see the whole pic. I've read some of your old posts and you have flip flopped your opinion on PIR several times. No wonder why people have suspicians about you. If I thought as you do, I couldn't imagine spending so much time and energy with people i considered completly wrong/crazy. What is your interest here?
The Word (love) "its so fine, its sunshine"
|
|
|
Post by FlamingPie on Aug 26, 2004 4:41:20 GMT -5
Hey, Flaming Pie you said that there wasn't "much more" of that pic. I'd like to see the whole pic. I've read some of your old posts and you have flip flopped your opinion on PIR several times. No wonder why people have suspicians about you. If I thought as you do, I couldn't imagine spending so much time and energy with people i considered completly wrong/crazy. What is your interest here? The full pic: It's the very last page of "Beatles In Their Own Words" That's all the page is. A close up of him winking. I don't feel anyone here is crazy, and the one of the reasons I'm here is because.... What if I am wrong? Ya know?
|
|
|
Post by JoJo on Aug 26, 2004 5:39:05 GMT -5
A pic from a book called the "art of the Beatles", that winking pic is in the top middle, knew I'd seen it before. And just for fun, the other page: All the scans i made from that book: www.jojoplace.org/MovedPages/ArtofTheBeatles/Please please everyone, leave Flaming Pie alone! He has his own unique way of searching for the truth, but I've been on this earth long enough to tell when someone is a "pro", and when someone is just doing what they are doing for their own personal reasons. Not every doubter is a professional disinformation artist. And sometimes a cigar is just a cigar... Ok FP, I believe you when you say it wasn't meant as a test, if it's true that you put up all these pics because you just want to know, then I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
|
|
|
Post by xpt626 on Aug 26, 2004 6:00:03 GMT -5
Please please everyone, leave Flaming Pie alone! He has his own unique way of searching for the truth, but I've been on this earth long enough to tell when someone is a "pro", and when someone is just doing what they are doing for their own personal reasons. Not every doubter is a professional disinformation artist. [img src="http://galeon.hispavista.com/akostuff/img/Good-Post[1].gif"] I second that. Thank you, JoJo
|
|
|
Post by matchbox on Aug 26, 2004 10:58:06 GMT -5
Does someone's eye distance change as they get older? Apparently not. Although the soft tissue apparently does.
|
|
|
Post by eyesbleed on Aug 26, 2004 14:19:09 GMT -5
I don't feel anyone here is crazy, and the one of the reasons I'm here is because.... What if I am wrong? Ya know? Poor FP..... Everybody's gangin' up on FP. Well that's what ya get for bein' so obsessively persistant! Even tho we've made it pretty clear that the PIDer's around here are not gonna be swayed by the (sometimes) excellent comparisons; ol'FP just keeps on workin' at it...... Persistance!! But I think it's as much for his own benefit as it is for ours. Ya gotta give him credit tho.... for being open enough to make the above statement, & others like it. The large majority of people out there are not willing to even consider the possibility of PWR, & get seriously pissed at the suggestion. So I think just being open to the possibilities is worth a lot in my book.
|
|
madtitan125
For Sale
"There is no knowledge that is not power!"
Posts: 99
|
Post by madtitan125 on Aug 26, 2004 16:25:50 GMT -5
OK, I have the answer to the photo question. It's Faul!
I should have recognized the picture from the book "The Beatles In Their Own Words". I have that book!
If anyone can get a close up scan of that book's cover, you will see ALL OF FAUL'S SURGICAL SCARS.
The publishers used some kind of screen-technique on the photo used for that cover & it brings out all the scalpel marks! Ouch!
Also in that book is a picture (1967) of Faul nibbling his right hand standing BEHIND John, yet still towering over him.
Faul was always pretty careful to slouch, stand with his legs wider apart, bend backwards, etc when being photographed in proximity to his bandmates.
The mentioned photo is one where he apparently forgot!
Nothing but love to Flaming Pie and other PIA'ers, but how can you see evidence after evidence and still claim to not see the differences?
So if anyone has the book "The Beatles In Their Own Words", pay special attention to Faul on the cover. Hone in on where all of the well-known surgical scars should be located, and they seem to be maginified beyond any refute.
Not only that, his big brown contacts have never been larger.
|
|
|
Post by FlamingPie on Aug 26, 2004 18:23:42 GMT -5
Also in that book is a picture (1967) of Faul nibbling his right hand standing BEHIND John, yet still towering over him. Yeah, too bad you can't see their feet in that pic. And here's the cover pic of him that you wanted. Looks like there's some sort of coffee stain or something on his cheek.
|
|
madtitan125
For Sale
"There is no knowledge that is not power!"
Posts: 99
|
Post by madtitan125 on Aug 26, 2004 18:39:15 GMT -5
That picture is scary!
|
|
madtitan125
For Sale
"There is no knowledge that is not power!"
Posts: 99
|
Post by madtitan125 on Aug 26, 2004 18:49:00 GMT -5
Not exactly what you'd call natural! Ha ha!
If we could just get a little closer, you can almost see exactly where the surgeons made their incisions.....
This is probably not one of Faul's favorite photos!
|
|