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Post by Red Lion on Jul 25, 2023 3:40:33 GMT -5
Not to derail this thread but …
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Glad to see you're aboard.
There was not much desire for Paul to return. The reasons being, well...the reason he left in the first place. Plus, with the cast in place, he could afford more time to come 'round if he chose. Paul was never totally out of sight. In fact, he managed to play a part in most of the behind the scenes part of running the Beatles.
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Post by jarvitronics on Jul 25, 2023 7:30:12 GMT -5
Not to derail this thread but … RL Glad to see you're aboard. There was not much desire for Paul to return. The reasons being, well...the reason he left in the first place. Plus, with the cast in place, he could afford more time to come 'round if he chose. Paul was never totally out of sight. In fact, he managed to play a part in most of the behind the scenes part of running the Beatles. Apollo ^^This is the exact opposite of derailing. Thanks for posting it. I find it curious that Apollo told different people different "stories". Perhaps based upon what he perceived to be their area of interest? I was never particularly focused on a replacement and so he never brought it up with me; you were more curious about that, and so he addressed it with you. The closest thing Apollo said to me that implied a replacement was when he said this: “There is a REAL mystery. It was placed on purpose. But people will see what they wish, regardless of the true intent. The basis being, a parody of a satire involving a "band" that never existed. In a word...mimesis. Mythology and poetry. Past, present, and future. Narration, imitation, or a collection of the two. An assimilation of himself to another, by use of voice and gesture is an imitation of the person whose character he assumes.”The task being now, how to integrate his various narratives into a single cohesive whole that makes sense? For instance, when he said, “C'mon, mate! What are you expecting to find? It was all a lark. A well crafted lark, if I may say so myself.” I have to wonder, if Paul was replaced, (as Apollo clearly stated to you), and if The Beatles left clues about it, how is one to construe that as a "lark"? -j
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Post by ramone on Jul 25, 2023 9:54:07 GMT -5
Had the same thought myself Jarv. Lark: "a merry, carefree adventure; frolic; escapade. · innocent or good-natured mischief; a prank."
Perhaps it was two things at once - or a working in tandem thing.
There was the serious real replacement aspect and the lads (et al) having a kind of escapade with it all at the same time.
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Post by Red Lion on Jul 25, 2023 11:39:11 GMT -5
Perhaps presenting clues and such was a way of coping by letting people in on the gig without actually saying anything and then denying if confronted. Apollo stated (I’d have to find) there was an absence which could not be admitted by the replacement or absentee, and obviously the band and entourage as well.
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Post by ramone on Jul 25, 2023 12:55:10 GMT -5
(Cayatana) Just like Apollo put it: “Nobody was to step outside the dotted lines. The plan, to deny. Keeps things on a level playing ground. "Nope, never happened." But, what about this and that? "Sorry mate, never happened." Dig? The same went for those behind the curtain, as well. We cannot stop those that see beyond the illusion. Kinda falls in line with the game plan. I've stated that there are those things which I must keep close to me chest. If one was to discover these "things" without the help of those that remain silent, a greater truth is to be found. I have, with you, stepped outside and trampled the flowers in the dirt. Slowly, another story comes to light. This is YOUR story. The true story will never be told. It is to be discovered. And when you finally are at peace wth your discovery, expect none to "fess up" and authenticate. It is not in our plans.”
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Post by cayetana on Jul 25, 2023 16:21:39 GMT -5
“We were riding along on the mopeds. I was showing Tara the scenery. He was behind me, and it was an incredible full moon; it really was huge.”So there you have it: Tara, full moon (Diana [Dors]?), mustache, Sgt Pepper. Another interesting bit is that Paul says the accident happened on December 26 1965 but there was no full moon on that date… Yet another Fab fable. The new moon was just four days prior, on December 22nd, so this is what the "incredible full moon" that "really was huge" would have looked like on December 26th: www.yourdictionary.com/taradiddle -j 😆😆😆
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Post by cayetana on Jul 25, 2023 16:29:18 GMT -5
Another oddity in Be att EL lore. (Help!) YEAH, A full moon would have been two weeks prior. What I can't find (yet) is whether the account above is from the Paul that actually took the spill or Sir P just recounting it. (anthology?) (I know SiR P has talked about it - just don't know if it's this account mentioned above ) And then he's sporting a mustache right after his spill? The Rain vid is without. Did he grow it in Jan '66 then shave it before Rain? Then grow it for his Africa trip? (oh, and if anyone thinks that's JPM in that Africa footage - well, I think you'll believe just about anything. Just IMHO - and not meant to offend but ya just might need medication, lol!) Yes, the quote comes from Anthology so I guess Sir Paul (whoever he is). I always thought his explanation (grew a mustache to hide the scar) was rather flimsy (much like the explanation he gave for the black carnation or for kicking off his sandals during the Abbey Road photo shoot) precisely because of what you said: no trace of mustache in Rain. Or was it a fake mustache altogether?..
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Post by cayetana on Jul 25, 2023 16:31:23 GMT -5
Not to derail this thread but … RL Glad to see you're aboard. There was not much desire for Paul to return. The reasons being, well...the reason he left in the first place. Plus, with the cast in place, he could afford more time to come 'round if he chose. Paul was never totally out of sight. In fact, he managed to play a part in most of the behind the scenes part of running the Beatles. Apollo Thank you for sharing this one!
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Post by cayetana on Jul 25, 2023 16:35:03 GMT -5
Perhaps presenting clues and such was a way of coping by letting people in on the gig without actually saying anything and then denying if confronted. Apollo stated (I’d have to find) there was an absence which could not be admitted by the replacement or absentee, and obviously the band and entourage as well. This.
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Post by cayetana on Jul 25, 2023 16:48:38 GMT -5
This post by ACV was shared by Wings:
Wings
For every lie, there remains an ort of truth. Trying to figure which is which (or..witch is witch) remains the end game. The Beatle history, though recounted time and time again, contains many deceptions. Agreed by all, and stands the test of time. For those that pay close attention, the statements glare. From birth to death, those involved MUST follow the story line.
[Compare this to another post by ACV where he basically says the same: “ The story line? In all truth, about 65% of what is written is based on things that actually happened. The remainder, sheer fantasy. Now, to figure what is, and what isn't. It was agreed, BY ALL INVOLVED, that once the "story" is told, not to deviate from any previous statements.”]
Tends to let those with active imaginations add to the fray. Not the original intention. Yet, by the ever popular denial, just seems to add fuel to the fire. So, what started a a bit of fun, soon turned quite nasty. Some received the message with peaked curiosity, others built an empire of destruction. The latter, but the kabash on our "fun." The end result cost lives.
There are still gems to be found from the earlier work. Some will clarify, some to just muddy the koi waters. Bottom line, Paul never died. An extended holiday maybe, but still here for all to see. You are spot on in your deductions. Keep a keen eye on what is shown. Listen to what the man says. There is nothing you can know that isn't known.
Apollo
This one was left by APOV (Mike) on Guestboard:
It is good to see so many of you taking an active role in trying to solve this mystery. I say, keep up the good work and go where the clues lead you. For those who belly ache about not getting answers when they demand them, I find you rather sad and pathetic.
YOU chose to "play the game". Well, shut the fuck up and PLAY THE GAME! Nobody here is going to hand over the golden ring. Do the work and reap the awards. Or else find another cause you have the mental capacity to participate in.
THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN SEE THAT ISN'T SHOWN
I don't need to prove anything to you, nor did Nell. For those who lack the understanding of any relationship, Nell was a nickname used by many, Fabs included.
For one as ridiculed as I, we have lead you on a true path to understanding this enigma. Great leaps have been taken to enter this into areas not even understood in that day and age. Although much as been learned in the present, it bares little resemblance to that particular day and age. One might try not overlooking and overthinking the puzzle at your feet. The recipe you need is right in your lap. If you want cookies, you can buy the already made variety, or you can bake them from scratch. I prefer the latter. You should too. Nobody is going to do that for you. Stop asking. “
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Post by cayetana on Jul 25, 2023 17:21:19 GMT -5
Here, ACV clearly says there was a replacement and that JPM returned and it’s him we see in Get Back (correct me if I’m wrong but I think it’s another one of his posts addressed to Red Lion.):
The marriage ended when Paul took a holiday from the rest of the band. One that could have been quite endless. Chasing waterfalls. Upon coming back, and trying to move the lads along as Eppie had once done, the rest took some offense. Rightfully so. It continued on to this very day. Bill pursued other matters with his new found fame. Think Canada.”
Despite whatever was, or is going to be said, our dear boy still walks amongst us. Maybe closer than you think. And yes, one and one and one is three. So, now you have me narrowed down a tad tighter. One sauntered back to the abyss from whence he came, one went on to put the "Paul" experience to good work [ Klaatu?], and the other... Nuff said for now.
Maybe here Apollo did indeed apply the same method he wanted us to use to crack the codes of the Pepper cover: a specific story(line) for a specific person, so that when we piece them together we get to see a bigger picture / move on a different level.
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Post by Red Lion on Jul 25, 2023 17:47:52 GMT -5
Since wings was brought up, here’s something he DM’d me years ago…
“I'm working on a television project that will incorporate the McCartney mystery. It's a work of fiction (it would have to be to get it on television), but it will definitely have elements of the truth in it. In other words, it won't be the same tired "Paul is dead" story, but more along the lines of the direction those of us in the private sections of the board have been headed these last couple of years.
It's amazing how many older people in the entertainment industry who were there in the '60s seem to know something about this. I've gotten more winks and cryptic comments about this than I would have known
Obviously, I need you to keep the above to yourself. However, those same people have passed some information to me and I wanted to pass that along so that you could look into it.
There's an analogy to be found in many albums about space travel, specifically living on Mars. It's a repeating meme found in a great deal of Wings material, Klaatu (obviously), and solo McCartney (although to a lesser extent). It's definitely an allusion about Paul going into hiding, and the idea of retreating to a barren planet seems to be a fantasy Sir Paul goes to often (the song Heather on Driving Rain, for example).
Venus and Mars is an important album in this regard, at least for both the title track and the reprise halfway through the record. Much like Chaos and Creation is a wink to two Pauls, so is the name Venus and Mars. Each version of the title track is about one of them and their lives at the time the album was recorded.
The Mars thing makes me wonder if it's a clue of what the terrain looks like of wherever Paul went to. You'd think desert, but the numerous garden clues can't be ignored either. An oasis, perhaps? I don't have the answer.
Klaatu? There's a Paul involved there as a secret member of the group, although I'm not sure if he was present for all five albums. My best guess is"Pepper Paul," the mustached guy the Beatles used in the interim until they found Sir Paul, although it could very well be JPM in the group. Either way, whomever it was obviously couldn't go public when Long, Draper, and Woloschuk did.
The Klaatu sun represents Paul. In fact, "Sun" is one of the many names they coined to refer to Paul. Any reference to the sun in Beatles lyrics post-Revolver should be a red flag. It was probably derived from JPM's Beatles For Sale song, and you should do as it says... follow the sun.”
The last few sentences about the “sun“ has always had me intrigued. “Sitting in an English garden, waiting for the sun, if the sun don’t come, you get a tan from standing in the English rain“… “Sun King”… “Well, the rain exploded with a mighty crash as we fell into the sun, and the first one said to the second one there I hope you’re having fun”… Hmmmmm….
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Post by jarvitronics on Jul 25, 2023 22:07:49 GMT -5
This post by ACV was shared by Wings: Wings For every lie, there remains an ort of truth. Trying to figure which is which (or..witch is witch) remains the end game. The Beatle history, though recounted time and time again, contains many deceptions. Agreed by all, and stands the test of time. For those that pay close attention, the statements glare. From birth to death, those involved MUST follow the story line. [Compare this to another post by ACV where he basically says the same: “ The story line? In all truth, about 65% of what is written is based on things that actually happened. The remainder, sheer fantasy. Now, to figure what is, and what isn't. It was agreed, BY ALL INVOLVED, that once the "story" is told, not to deviate from any previous statements.”] Tends to let those with active imaginations add to the fray. Not the original intention. Yet, by the ever popular denial, just seems to add fuel to the fire. So, what started a a bit of fun, soon turned quite nasty. Some received the message with peaked curiosity, others built an empire of destruction. The latter, but the kabash on our "fun." The end result cost lives. There are still gems to be found from the earlier work. Some will clarify, some to just muddy the koi waters. Bottom line, Paul never died. An extended holiday maybe, but still here for all to see. You are spot on in your deductions. Keep a keen eye on what is shown. Listen to what the man says. There is nothing you can know that isn't known. Apollo This one was left by APOV (Mike) on Guestboard: It is good to see so many of you taking an active role in trying to solve this mystery. I say, keep up the good work and go where the clues lead you. For those who belly ache about not getting answers when they demand them, I find you rather sad and pathetic. YOU chose to "play the game". Well, shut the fuck up and PLAY THE GAME! Nobody here is going to hand over the golden ring. Do the work and reap the awards. Or else find another cause you have the mental capacity to participate in. THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN SEE THAT ISN'T SHOWN I don't need to prove anything to you, nor did Nell. For those who lack the understanding of any relationship, Nell was a nickname used by many, Fabs included. For one as ridiculed as I, we have lead you on a true path to understanding this enigma. Great leaps have been taken to enter this into areas not even understood in that day and age. Although much as been learned in the present, it bares little resemblance to that particular day and age. One might try not overlooking and overthinking the puzzle at your feet. The recipe you need is right in your lap. If you want cookies, you can buy the already made variety, or you can bake them from scratch. I prefer the latter. You should too. Nobody is going to do that for you. Stop asking. “ Some received the message with peaked curiosity, others built an empire of destruction. The latter, but the kabash on our "fun." The end result cost lives.Manson? -j
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Post by ramone on Jul 25, 2023 23:36:48 GMT -5
"The term “helter skelter” actually predates both The Beatles and Manson, and in the U.K. it actually is a name used to describe an amusement park ride a: tall wooden structure, with a spiral slide around the outside of it. Going back even further, this term comes from a word used to describe “disorderly haste or confusion” and was first coined in the 1500s. Helter and skelter mean nothing apart from one another, but put together they simply mean "chaos." "Unfortunately for the band, Manson took this seemingly innocent rock song and interpreted it for his own diabolical purposes. Manson believed that The Beatles were sending coded messages in their songs to start a racial war. " www.refinery29.com/en-us/what-is-helter-skelter-charles-manson-meaning
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Post by ekauqodielak on Jul 26, 2023 0:58:29 GMT -5
Since wings was brought up, here’s something he DM’d me years ago… “I'm working on a television project that will incorporate the McCartney mystery. It's a work of fiction (it would have to be to get it on television), but it will definitely have elements of the truth in it. In other words, it won't be the same tired "Paul is dead" story, but more along the lines of the direction those of us in the private sections of the board have been headed these last couple of years. It's amazing how many older people in the entertainment industry who were there in the '60s seem to know something about this. I've gotten more winks and cryptic comments about this than I would have known Obviously, I need you to keep the above to yourself. However, those same people have passed some information to me and I wanted to pass that along so that you could look into it. There's an analogy to be found in many albums about space travel, specifically living on Mars. It's a repeating meme found in a great deal of Wings material, Klaatu (obviously), and solo McCartney (although to a lesser extent). It's definitely an allusion about Paul going into hiding, and the idea of retreating to a barren planet seems to be a fantasy Sir Paul goes to often (the song Heather on Driving Rain, for example). Venus and Mars is an important album in this regard, at least for both the title track and the reprise halfway through the record. Much like Chaos and Creation is a wink to two Pauls, so is the name Venus and Mars. Each version of the title track is about one of them and their lives at the time the album was recorded. The Mars thing makes me wonder if it's a clue of what the terrain looks like of wherever Paul went to. You'd think desert, but the numerous garden clues can't be ignored either. An oasis, perhaps? I don't have the answer. Klaatu? There's a Paul involved there as a secret member of the group, although I'm not sure if he was present for all five albums. My best guess is"Pepper Paul," the mustached guy the Beatles used in the interim until they found Sir Paul, although it could very well be JPM in the group. Either way, whomever it was obviously couldn't go public when Long, Draper, and Woloschuk did. The Klaatu sun represents Paul. In fact, "Sun" is one of the many names they coined to refer to Paul. Any reference to the sun in Beatles lyrics post-Revolver should be a red flag. It was probably derived from JPM's Beatles For Sale song, and you should do as it says... follow the sun.” The last few sentences about the “sun“ has always had me intrigued. “Sitting in an English garden, waiting for the sun, if the sun don’t come, you get a tan from standing in the English rain“… “Sun King”… “Well, the rain exploded with a mighty crash as we fell into the sun, and the first one said to the second one there I hope you’re having fun”… Hmmmmm….
What do you think the tv project was?
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Post by Red Lion on Jul 26, 2023 1:07:59 GMT -5
I don’t know… I tried contacting him again, but was unsuccessful…
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Post by ekauqodielak on Jul 26, 2023 1:31:47 GMT -5
I don’t know… I tried contacting him again, but was unsuccessful…
Which year did he say it? Might be able to narrow it down to sometime afterward…Also, may have never gotten into production, but if it did perhaps we could figure it out.
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Post by cayetana on Jul 26, 2023 8:42:47 GMT -5
This post by ACV was shared by Wings: Wings For every lie, there remains an ort of truth. Trying to figure which is which (or..witch is witch) remains the end game. The Beatle history, though recounted time and time again, contains many deceptions. Agreed by all, and stands the test of time. For those that pay close attention, the statements glare. From birth to death, those involved MUST follow the story line. [Compare this to another post by ACV where he basically says the same: “ The story line? In all truth, about 65% of what is written is based on things that actually happened. The remainder, sheer fantasy. Now, to figure what is, and what isn't. It was agreed, BY ALL INVOLVED, that once the "story" is told, not to deviate from any previous statements.”] Tends to let those with active imaginations add to the fray. Not the original intention. Yet, by the ever popular denial, just seems to add fuel to the fire. So, what started a a bit of fun, soon turned quite nasty. Some received the message with peaked curiosity, others built an empire of destruction. The latter, but the kabash on our "fun." The end result cost lives. There are still gems to be found from the earlier work. Some will clarify, some to just muddy the koi waters. Bottom line, Paul never died. An extended holiday maybe, but still here for all to see. You are spot on in your deductions. Keep a keen eye on what is shown. Listen to what the man says. There is nothing you can know that isn't known. Apollo This one was left by APOV (Mike) on Guestboard: It is good to see so many of you taking an active role in trying to solve this mystery. I say, keep up the good work and go where the clues lead you. For those who belly ache about not getting answers when they demand them, I find you rather sad and pathetic. YOU chose to "play the game". Well, shut the fuck up and PLAY THE GAME! Nobody here is going to hand over the golden ring. Do the work and reap the awards. Or else find another cause you have the mental capacity to participate in. THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN SEE THAT ISN'T SHOWN I don't need to prove anything to you, nor did Nell. For those who lack the understanding of any relationship, Nell was a nickname used by many, Fabs included. For one as ridiculed as I, we have lead you on a true path to understanding this enigma. Great leaps have been taken to enter this into areas not even understood in that day and age. Although much as been learned in the present, it bares little resemblance to that particular day and age. One might try not overlooking and overthinking the puzzle at your feet. The recipe you need is right in your lap. If you want cookies, you can buy the already made variety, or you can bake them from scratch. I prefer the latter. You should too. Nobody is going to do that for you. Stop asking. “ Some received the message with peaked curiosity, others built an empire of destruction. The latter, but the kabash on our "fun." The end result cost lives.Manson? -j I think so, yes. “The end result cost lives”. Very much a failure to communicate, as Apollo said elsewhere.
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Post by cayetana on Jul 26, 2023 8:50:29 GMT -5
Since wings was brought up, here’s something he DM’d me years ago… “I'm working on a television project that will incorporate the McCartney mystery. It's a work of fiction (it would have to be to get it on television), but it will definitely have elements of the truth in it. In other words, it won't be the same tired "Paul is dead" story, but more along the lines of the direction those of us in the private sections of the board have been headed these last couple of years. It's amazing how many older people in the entertainment industry who were there in the '60s seem to know something about this. I've gotten more winks and cryptic comments about this than I would have known Obviously, I need you to keep the above to yourself. However, those same people have passed some information to me and I wanted to pass that along so that you could look into it. There's an analogy to be found in many albums about space travel, specifically living on Mars. It's a repeating meme found in a great deal of Wings material, Klaatu (obviously), and solo McCartney (although to a lesser extent). It's definitely an allusion about Paul going into hiding, and the idea of retreating to a barren planet seems to be a fantasy Sir Paul goes to often (the song Heather on Driving Rain, for example). Venus and Mars is an important album in this regard, at least for both the title track and the reprise halfway through the record. Much like Chaos and Creation is a wink to two Pauls, so is the name Venus and Mars. Each version of the title track is about one of them and their lives at the time the album was recorded. The Mars thing makes me wonder if it's a clue of what the terrain looks like of wherever Paul went to. You'd think desert, but the numerous garden clues can't be ignored either. An oasis, perhaps? I don't have the answer. Klaatu? There's a Paul involved there as a secret member of the group, although I'm not sure if he was present for all five albums. My best guess is"Pepper Paul," the mustached guy the Beatles used in the interim until they found Sir Paul, although it could very well be JPM in the group. Either way, whomever it was obviously couldn't go public when Long, Draper, and Woloschuk did. The Klaatu sun represents Paul. In fact, "Sun" is one of the many names they coined to refer to Paul. Any reference to the sun in Beatles lyrics post-Revolver should be a red flag. It was probably derived from JPM's Beatles For Sale song, and you should do as it says... follow the sun.” The last few sentences about the “sun“ has always had me intrigued. “Sitting in an English garden, waiting for the sun, if the sun don’t come, you get a tan from standing in the English rain“… “Sun King”… “Well, the rain exploded with a mighty crash as we fell into the sun, and the first one said to the second one there I hope you’re having fun”… Hmmmmm…. >>> The Mars thing makes me wonder if it's a clue of what the terrain looks like of wherever Paul went to. You'd think desert, but the numerous garden clues can't be ignored either. An oasis, perhaps? I don't have the answer.>>> Egypt Station artwork comes to mind…
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Post by cayetana on Jul 26, 2023 9:50:19 GMT -5
Since wings was brought up, here’s something he DM’d me years ago… “I'm working on a television project that will incorporate the McCartney mystery. It's a work of fiction (it would have to be to get it on television), but it will definitely have elements of the truth in it. In other words, it won't be the same tired "Paul is dead" story, but more along the lines of the direction those of us in the private sections of the board have been headed these last couple of years. It's amazing how many older people in the entertainment industry who were there in the '60s seem to know something about this. I've gotten more winks and cryptic comments about this than I would have known Obviously, I need you to keep the above to yourself. However, those same people have passed some information to me and I wanted to pass that along so that you could look into it. There's an analogy to be found in many albums about space travel, specifically living on Mars. It's a repeating meme found in a great deal of Wings material, Klaatu (obviously), and solo McCartney (although to a lesser extent). It's definitely an allusion about Paul going into hiding, and the idea of retreating to a barren planet seems to be a fantasy Sir Paul goes to often (the song Heather on Driving Rain, for example). Venus and Mars is an important album in this regard, at least for both the title track and the reprise halfway through the record. Much like Chaos and Creation is a wink to two Pauls, so is the name Venus and Mars. Each version of the title track is about one of them and their lives at the time the album was recorded. The Mars thing makes me wonder if it's a clue of what the terrain looks like of wherever Paul went to. You'd think desert, but the numerous garden clues can't be ignored either. An oasis, perhaps? I don't have the answer. Klaatu? There's a Paul involved there as a secret member of the group, although I'm not sure if he was present for all five albums. My best guess is"Pepper Paul," the mustached guy the Beatles used in the interim until they found Sir Paul, although it could very well be JPM in the group. Either way, whomever it was obviously couldn't go public when Long, Draper, and Woloschuk did. The Klaatu sun represents Paul. In fact, "Sun" is one of the many names they coined to refer to Paul. Any reference to the sun in Beatles lyrics post-Revolver should be a red flag. It was probably derived from JPM's Beatles For Sale song, and you should do as it says... follow the sun.” The last few sentences about the “sun“ has always had me intrigued. “Sitting in an English garden, waiting for the sun, if the sun don’t come, you get a tan from standing in the English rain“… “Sun King”… “Well, the rain exploded with a mighty crash as we fell into the sun, and the first one said to the second one there I hope you’re having fun”… Hmmmmm…. >>> It's amazing how many older people in the entertainment industry who were there in the '60s seem to know something about this. I've gotten more winks and cryptic comments about this than I would have known >>> I made a post on this forum some time ago about someone who wrote an online book about Paul. His pseudonym is “Liam Steen” and he claims to be either someone from the business side of the Beatles or even “William” himself (I understand “Liam Steen” is a collective account with more than one person behind it). In his book he gives some info on William (he was known in the London underground scene, knew people like Syd Barrett, had a girlfriend named Sally) and says Paul died from coronary artery disease but because he knew he was very ill he had chosen his own replacement. Now of course “Liam” very well could be another impostor but if he’s the real deal why does he put forward this new theory? Chances are, he was told by the management that Paul died (while in reality Paul just left the limelight) or maybe it’s all part of the same “game”where you have to figure out which story is true and which is pure fantasy. After all “Liam” too called his book historical fiction (to avoid lawsuits presumably). I know this guy (guys?) used to have a Facebook group and chat with some of its members online but that’s about it. He referred to the clues as an “art project” by the Beatles dedicated to Paul. He also has a YouTube channel and in one comment there he mentions a documentary that’s going to be made about “the mystery” after some of the key players pass away. Now how reliable this person’s info is is anyone’s guess but in case it turns out to be someone with ties to the entertainment industry it might be worth considering. My thread about “Liam”: invanddis.proboards.com/thread/9515/liam-steen
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Post by Red Lion on Jul 26, 2023 10:33:19 GMT -5
I don’t know… I tried contacting him again, but was unsuccessful… Which year did he say it? Might be able to narrow it down to sometime afterward…Also, may have never gotten into production, but if it did perhaps we could figure it out.
2007ish
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Post by cayetana on Aug 1, 2023 8:58:06 GMT -5
From Red Lion’s post: >>>The Klaatu sun represents Paul. In fact, "Sun" is one of the many names they coined to refer to Paul. Any reference to the sun in Beatles lyrics post-Revolver should be a red flag. It was probably derived from JPM's Beatles For Sale song, and you should do as it says... follow the sun.” The last few sentences about the “sun“ has always had me intrigued. “Sitting in an English garden, waiting for the sun, if the sun don’t come, you get a tan from standing in the English rain“… “Sun King”… “Well, the rain exploded with a mighty crash as we fell into the sun, and the first one said to the second one there I hope you’re having fun”… Hmmmmm….>>>
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Post by jarvitronics on Oct 17, 2023 8:04:40 GMT -5
I wonder... Did Paul name his band "Wings" as a tribute to Tara? (Ptera?) -j
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Post by ramone on Oct 17, 2023 10:50:12 GMT -5
Interesting! I guess we'd have to ask if Wings was a solo Bill project or not. That might weigh in. pteradactyl "Pterodactylus (from Greek pterodáktylos (πτεροδάκτυλος) meaning 'winged finger')" (fingers)
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Post by joseph on Oct 17, 2023 18:00:23 GMT -5
In Faul's case the most boring witch in the west 👇
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