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Post by DarkHorse on Jun 18, 2004 8:02:52 GMT -5
Yeah it isn't this guy's friggin' birthday.
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Post by DarkHorse on Mar 17, 2004 17:21:04 GMT -5
Well i dont know how much handwriting can change thru the years but for me they look different Yes look at Paul's y's, when it is the last letter in a word, in the earlier letters compared to the later letters.
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Post by DarkHorse on Jul 21, 2004 8:20:03 GMT -5
Immitation all the way!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by DarkHorse on Jun 28, 2004 8:25:08 GMT -5
...'pretty good' imitation I would say.
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Post by DarkHorse on Jun 23, 2004 7:58:37 GMT -5
I'll have to check that out Doc. To see if I can figure out what he's saying or if he is saying 'help me' like you say. Maybe I need to get someone who reads lips?
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Post by DarkHorse on Jun 22, 2004 19:00:25 GMT -5
Formulating some ideas, one thing is that on the video for PL, no one lip syncs to the words, except John sorta looks like he mouths some nonsense for a second or two. This is a break from numerous videos in the past, they lip synched on promo videos before and quite well. Maybe the singer who is supposed to be mouthing the words isn't there? That's a good point Jojo. No one is lipsyncing that song and perhaps it's because the actual singer wasn't there ....he was deceased.
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Post by DarkHorse on Jun 19, 2004 14:21:39 GMT -5
Very fascinating! Notice the difference on the line "On the corner is a banker with a motorcar" particularly the word 'corner' as it sounds so different on the 'raw' version with just James Paul than on the completed version. Some spots were filled in more than others I guess. But this first version is all James Paul with the exception of the harmony backup vocals by John. You can also hear JP added his own voice in the chorus "Penny Lane is in my ears...". Isn't that called double tracking? They probably could have left the vocals the way they were but had to get everyone used to Bill's voice so maybe I am thinking Bill overdubbed his voice, not the imitator. It's possible but I think the vocals were fine as they were in the first version. It almost sounds complete with the exception of the piccolo trumpet solo. Great! Thanks Jojo.
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Post by DarkHorse on Jun 18, 2004 20:24:22 GMT -5
Okay, on the Anthology II cd the version of Penny Lane sounds like all James Paul singing that song. You can tell it's one singer and you can tell it's James Paul. It's really quite nice listening to him alone sing this and it's also a little eerie at the same time. You kind of get a feeling of what it would be like if he had sung all of his own songs, the ones that Bill performed later on.
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Post by DarkHorse on Jun 15, 2004 14:27:12 GMT -5
After listening to a newly aquired copy of the alternate Penny lane (you know the one without the bach trumpet) I starting to think this is actually is JPM. Are you referring to the Anthology?
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Post by DarkHorse on Jun 4, 2004 10:07:44 GMT -5
Please excuse my ignorance but where did the notion of a "vocal imitator" for Paul come from? Is this a carry-over from the 60IF stuff? Seems quite a few people accept this as fact. I only accept the vocal imitator as true because in the song it doesn't sound 100% like James Paul to me and it doesn't sound like Faul overdubbed it either. There IS some carry over from 60IF yes as many of us are freely using the name Faul.
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Post by DarkHorse on Jun 4, 2004 8:51:35 GMT -5
An interesting side note about Penny Lane, in one interview George Martin was talking about how Paul came to him one day and said that he had heard a tremendously high trumpet the night before. George said it was a Bach trumpet and that yes he agreed it had a great high sound to it. Then Paul asked if they could use it in a song and George said okay and invited the guy from the London Symphony Orcestra to play that part on Penny Lane, which I think is the best musical part of the song.
What's also of note is who had that conversation with GM. Was it Paul or Bill? If it was Paul then the song would have been somewhat complete by the fall of 1966 and finished up, i.e. overdubbed with the imitator's voice, later on. Or what could have happened is that Paul had the song somewhat completed and got the idea for the piccolo trumpet and died before it was ever recorded on his song. Then with the idea still in mind George invited the London symphony guy to record on that song sometime in early 1967....
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Post by DarkHorse on Jun 3, 2004 8:00:25 GMT -5
I wonder if John might be singing very lightly in the lead vocal mix. Just under the original Paul track, which itself must have been a tiny bit incomplete. I think one thing from, well, a longtime ago may be right. The "very strange", is, especially the latter one, so James Paul. Yes I agree John's voice can be heard in the line "In summer".
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Post by DarkHorse on Jun 2, 2004 20:22:59 GMT -5
Everyone, please take the time and vote.
Please think it through also.
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Post by DarkHorse on Apr 10, 2005 21:29:31 GMT -5
Very good observation Eggy.
Probably Sgt. Pepper, MMT & The White Album were albums with a heavy amount of Martin's influence on them.
I wonder if John cared that anyone found out that Paul was really Bill.
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Post by DarkHorse on May 7, 2006 20:20:48 GMT -5
Don't forget how perfectly the fades matched up from Bill to the WA picture. I know we don't rely on fades here but when they are that close it still means something.
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Post by DarkHorse on May 7, 2006 10:30:15 GMT -5
Boom! chuggaluggalugga Boom! chuggaluggalugga.
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Post by DarkHorse on May 7, 2006 9:47:02 GMT -5
The reason I have trouble buying that explanation is that it looks like a driver's license photo of sorts. Not saying that's what it is, but the bored facial expression and the way it's framed (not to mention the white backdrop) doesn't give the appearance of a photo capturing a prank with a young Paul McCartney in disguise. That said, I'll relent and admit that the man, whichever McCartney or faux-McCartney it is, is thin enough to pass as a very young James Paul. I just don't think it is. The nose is off. The chin is off. There's a resemblance though, but then there would have to be no matter which way it swung, wouldn't there? The photo on the right of the young JPM shows signs of being doctored/fabricated to make JPM look more like the Faul imposter. You mean the photo on the left, right?
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Post by DarkHorse on May 5, 2006 13:58:54 GMT -5
So are you saying that the guy on the White Album poster is Paul or Paul's dad?
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Post by DarkHorse on Nov 8, 2004 21:16:45 GMT -5
Dizzy Gillespie was well known for his exceptionally elastic cheeks. Chipmunks everywhere saught to emulate his storage capacity.
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Post by DarkHorse on Nov 3, 2004 19:58:21 GMT -5
I'm using a vintage Paul pic, the eyes and the head shape match up, and you still say "Faul's head was taller". I've proved that wrong in ALL my fades. And so has KHAN, Kazu, and Larry. Sorry. Although very clever, your fades didn't prove anything to me ....or any of the mods or the PIDers on this board. Or any other fades done by the others. It's the truth. No they don't. Faul has a longer head, an oval face and a larger forehead. Paul's head was round and the eyes are placed differently on his face. Wider and lower in proportion to his face. ;D
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Post by DarkHorse on Nov 3, 2004 15:47:40 GMT -5
The contrast of a pic can change what the iris size looks like. ...only in extreme light where the iris appears smaller.
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Post by DarkHorse on Nov 3, 2004 7:15:52 GMT -5
Pupils? They fricken change in size depending on the amount of light. FP is right on target. Yes and you and FP are absolutely right! What I meant was the size of the iris. In the pic JP's are bigger and if it is a match they should be the same size. Agreed?
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Post by DarkHorse on Nov 2, 2004 22:19:10 GMT -5
And DH, you still didn't tell me what's wrong with that fade. Well the size of the pupils for one(Paul's are bigger in this fade) tells me that the method for making Paul match up with Faul is to make Paul's head bigger in proportion(as I've said a million times) and get just the right angle so that most of the features match up. Still all features do not match up.;D But good work though.
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Post by DarkHorse on Nov 2, 2004 22:00:59 GMT -5
1) What? You said: "Good drawing Bug. " When he said I made it. Okay, sorry. Good drawing FP.
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Post by DarkHorse on Nov 2, 2004 19:50:46 GMT -5
1) Did you even read what he said, or were you just looking at the pics? "FP used a special brush for the beard, did other stuff for the part in the hair." Yes I did. Why do you always ask me that? Is it because I don't agree with you? Your fade doesn't prove anything. The head shapes ARE different. Anyone with a pair of eyes can tell the difference.
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