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Post by Doc on Oct 25, 2006 23:13:13 GMT -5
LR posted: This is for you: OMG !!! I can enjoy, appreciate, even forgive everything in the Paul McCartney catalogue (and this goes for Michael Jackson as well) EXCEPT for "Say, Say, Say." I don't know why I can't. I have tried, it just makes me scream. I used to jump up when it came on MTV and run and turn the dial (in 1984 before I bothered to get a remote controlled TV) screaming OMG NO! Not this! Again! Anything but this! "She-Bop, She-Bop", "Su-Su-Su-da-you", "Ch-ch-ch-changes", "My Ge-ge-ge-ge-neration", "Cry-i-i-i-i-ing Over You", "She-Bang, She-Bang", and "Knock Three Times" are similar thorns. OK but I did just watch the video to "Say Say Say" on you tube just now, and I like the video story and enjoyed it overall more than when I was younger. The hook still drives me just to the cringe point (so sorry to say) but the song is otherwise well produced and written for pop, the recording is technically great, and MJ and Macca are singing in good duet harmony. I think it boils down to the triple repeat of the word "Say". Something about that just sets my teeth on edge. Say Say Say Say Say Say Say ok I am grinding my teeth now.
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Post by Doc on Oct 22, 2006 0:02:13 GMT -5
Pretty obvious its Faul in that second shot. Unless you're wearing your Ronco ® mioPIA Goggles ® (patent pending) Don't leave home without them! www.earthplanet.net/PIA Goggles.jpg [/img][/quote] They sell 'em on eBay.
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Post by Doc on Oct 21, 2006 23:42:55 GMT -5
Our man "Bill" was originally Fillmore Billarski, a reformed idiot of high reknown in a small, quaint area of Duddley, Pennsylvania. Fillmore worked the mines for a short time until he tasted a bit of Beatlemania on Ed Sullivan. Fillmore became obsessed and started sporting a British accent. Although the fellow citizens of Duddley felt Fillmore a bit eccentric. Fillmore decided to leave the mines and leave Duddley forever and went to London where he entered a Paul Mc Cartney look a like contest in 1966....The rest is Beatle history. Fillmore is now known as Sir Paul, or "Bill" to those in the PID/PWR forums! This smoking gun information was obtained by the tickle bee at: www.imastoop.com/beatlereplacements/fillard_billarski btw....trying to access this site will cause your socks to drop and erase all stupid emails from your computer! Pennsylvania? Of course. The state, er, commonwealth, most often overlooked in our research. Has anyone done a tally of states mentioned on our site? Delaware? Idaho? How often does Nebraska come up as a source of Bill? So, in slavic derivation, the nominative ending "ski" means "son of" of "little" version of the parent, i.e., Billarski is the Son of Bill Arse, due to the Rule of "Drop the Final E in words with "R" followed by "S", when using the "ski" ending. Of course, Billiards Key is a close faux cognate, while "Fillmore" is the unpopular name of one of the most unpopular-----but historically relevant------ presidents. Bilarski, Billard, Balard, Millard, even "Willard" play into this mix of intrigue and unreconciled clue clustering. Even the notion of "mining" clues has a familiar ring to it. "The Black Mining Hills of North Dakota" may have far more to do with Pennsylvania than we ever dreamed. Actually, I have never dreamed about North Dakota in my life. I don't even know exactly where North Dakota IS. Well, ABOVE South Dakota...........and trapped helplessly between that latter and..............OMG..........Canadia. O Gosh, we must free the people of North Dakota before it is TOO late. The border is why Canada has remained so long atop the United States. If we could remove North Dakota, Canada would deflate and drain into the United States, leaving behind only the DeBeque Sisters, flocks of wild birds, and a lot of elk. Worried about Newfoundland? Don't. What's good for the Geese is good for Gander.
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Post by Doc on Oct 21, 2006 23:01:27 GMT -5
Doc, your JPM pic is flipped. Oh. Well, even so, I think it is, though not now valid as a comparison, rather implicative, in a subjective way., of the two Paul's OK, so what you're saying is, is that I still don't have anything objectively demonstrating the differences. Sadly, that is true. We're stuck in the court of general impressions.
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Post by Doc on Oct 21, 2006 22:57:24 GMT -5
LR pass me whatever u r smoking (and i'm not speaking of the gun...) Threesies?
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Post by Doc on Oct 17, 2006 22:19:26 GMT -5
Doc, ehm... is everything ok? Thanks for your concern. I should be less "tart" when I have these little discoveries, yes, you're right. I was just delighted to find it; it shows on the right how much rounder JPM's facial quality was; though not overly so, and that Wiliams is more long-headed, but again, to a degree, not extreme like we once thought at TKIN! We made too much of that difference; it's more subtle, but you can tell it there, even if the picture got flipped as fp said; I didn't know, I didn't do the flipping. I found it that way. But 2 and 1/2 Bailey's and my verbiage waxes grandiose. Sorry about that................
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Post by Doc on Oct 17, 2006 22:11:11 GMT -5
Great job, Doc. I'm so glad that you have finally found the one comparison that pushed you off the fence onto our side ! Paul Faul 1 Faul 2 Yes, and as your selection amply demonstrates, Paul was always Paul, but Faul had several stages, perhaps three. Early Faul, Middle Faul, and Late Faul, implying ironically that the only one who could stand in for him now would be, inevitably, Winter. Edgar Winter. or.....is that Vivian Stanshall in a wig?
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Post by Doc on Oct 17, 2006 5:08:57 GMT -5
At last, I have found it. I have the smoking gun; the perfect comparison, the Final Proof. Right here. On THIS thread. Look below: Told you. William on the left, James Paul on the right. This is it. THIS is the one. THE one. The ONE. The last one, the final one, the "all she wrote" one, the icing on the cake, the period on the sentence, the galvanization of 42 and a half months of sifting through an infinite smørgasbord of photos, a sea, a veritable PLETHORA of "l'imagés des Beatâles", en, haw haw haw--en...............Our work is through. Congratulate me now. No, I am not gloating; I am basking and it's well earned. And now, I sleep. Good night, and Sweet Dreams to all my PWR comrades.
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Post by Doc on Jul 5, 2006 23:00:29 GMT -5
Great songs; they sound great. Great performers. Excellent. That song, "A Quick One", has a section, section two, goes like this: II. Crying Town Down your street your crying is a well-known sound Your street is very well known, right here in town Your town is very famous for the little girl Whose cries can be heard all around the world. A famous street? In a famous town? Famous for the "cries" (singing) of "the little girl"(euphemism, even Lennon used it) and this website: www.mathew.st/has this as the google info line: (qoute) Web site and live webcams of the world famous Mathew Street in Liverpool, UK - Birthplace of the Beatles. Paul's tenor helped make the Beatle's famous all around the world, thanks to the radio. Liverpool became known all around the world. Also, the" screaming of girls", plural, reacting to the Beatles, is still quite famous.
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Post by Doc on Jan 8, 2008 0:08:22 GMT -5
not bad! You the man, Lovely Rita! - er - well... the ho! "He's a real no shoes man!" "Some day, when I'm bare foot, deep in sand; not a lot to say - Then I will remember, shoes I wore today." "It won't be long, (yeah) long (yeah) long (yeah) long It won't be looooooooong! (yeah) (yeah) (yeah) It won't be long, at all, 'til I am wearing shooooooes." Oh dear! This thread has gone far afield. Gone gone gone Nice.......hmmm. Though you have a good point. How do we bring this thread back in toe?
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Post by Doc on Jan 8, 2008 0:07:03 GMT -5
Feetle Freedom! Begone, Old Brown Shoe! Blue Suede Crocks! Hey! You've Got to Hide those Shoes Away! Lovely Rita is much better at this than I am. Well, I do my best, but it comes unplanned.... Let's see my attempt here.... Bill's FauxTOE opportunities... Feet The Feetles I Want to Hold Your Foot Roll Over Feethoven Dr. Scholl's Only Foot's Club Band ( ) Happiness Is A Warm Sock The Continuining Story of FungusTOE Bill Hey FungusToe Bill Who did you kill fungustoe Bill? He went out walkin' on the beach barefoot In case of accidents he always took his socks ....all the children sing... I'm worn out.. Oh, LR, A+, sweetie, A++. Yes, devoting oneself to word games and puns can leave one perplexed and tired. But that's OK, because, you see, it'll keep you on your Faulanges. But whatever happens--We Can Walk It Out.
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Post by Doc on Jan 7, 2008 3:26:14 GMT -5
Feetle Freedom! Begone, Old Brown Shoe! Blue Suede Crocks! Hey! You've Got to Hide those Shoes Away! Lovely Rita is much better at this than I am. lol nice O-pradi, O-prada.
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Post by Doc on Jan 7, 2008 1:07:18 GMT -5
DarkHorse, I think the angle of the lower leg is an illusion caused by the wind blowing the pants cuff towards our right. This is also blowing Bill's hair forward and flat, making him look more "Paul-like". Look at the heel and follow it up to the knee and upwards. It curves like it would if it were hyperextended. But if you don't believe me, take a look at these pics: Faul's right leg Faul's left leg in these three pics ...and if you're not convinced, then you should be by this one: Optical illusions, I suspect. I like the suit, and I like the comfy shoes, too. Way to be comfortable. Why are we obligated to wearing binding, hard dress shoes all the time? Our feet deserve better treatment. Our feet don't care how trendy or formal they look. They just want to be cushy and have breathing room. I am for Foot Liberation.
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Post by Doc on Jan 7, 2008 1:00:52 GMT -5
Perfectly normal looking knees, really. The skin just under the patellae is somewhat loose, but then, I am only 50, and mine is much worse! Oh, yes, patella means knee cap. But it made me think of this pic from long ago, from the now infamous (to us) Mal Evens home movie montage: Now, look how long his legs and torso. I am hoping that he just got stretched in 8mm, or else, when they was doin' cosmetic surgery on Bill to Paul-ize him, they chopped out some leg, too. Ewwwee! Sounds like no fun at all. Like, smash the lower leg bones, go in and remove bone (like, with a chain saw, gag me), cut away some muscle and fat, and sew it up and call it a shorter pair of legs. That's kind of nauseating, as surgery goes. I don't really think that they can do that. It would forever mess up your walking and nerves and stuff. They can't make you shorter. The frame this picture comes from must be in a bad ratio. He looks 6'2" in it, and he is 5'11".
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Post by Doc on Dec 30, 2005 12:07:13 GMT -5
It most definitely is the 7th Inning Stretch, Doc. If what some people have theorized is true, then Bill was with the boys all along. As a hanger-on. So, he had ample time to watch all of them & get their mannerisms down. I bet he could imitate them all equally well. He just "lucked out" that it was Paul who kicked the bucket, since he resembled him. I remember reading awhile ao on TKIN that he performed Yesterday for the boys & they were impressed. That could be why he was offered the job so quickly. Paul seemed rather stiff in that interview. I think that he was a rather formal person when in public. I believe that he took his role as the groups' spokesman very seriously. Bill, on the other hand, has delighted in acting like a goof off from day one. Well, now, daydreamers sometimes merit some interpretation. This occurs to me: from: www.clinicalchild.com/adhd_the_pros.htmOf course, William may not have ADHD and he isn't our child, but, yet, strangely, it may be all about the creative impulse. People with ADHD shift their attention abruptly and at odd times to other things. Is it raining where you live? Anyway, maybe he does, or maybe he does not. I dont know maybe he likes to just twaddle around. Who can say. I know that I certainly do. When does basketball season start, isn't it just around the corner? Speaking of corners, we could have a little section here at NIR devoted to discussions of creative people. Or the planting of hydrangias. Hmm. Just a budding idea that needs time to flower.
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Post by Doc on Dec 30, 2005 2:50:53 GMT -5
Welcome, sistermaryabbey! Glad to have you on board here at NIR.
The video was informative; it made me wonder did Paul indeed want to retire early? And William really got JP's mannerisms down to a tee. The language and mannerisms in this clip and the language and mannerisms on the infamous "Fauls on his first appearence outside Abbey Road on the evening of Dec 20, 1966" [or whatever it is we call it] are totally sympatico, mannerisms, meter, mood, etc. Either William practiced a whole bunch or has a definite knack or whatever; point is, he began "performing Paul" rather well early in the game. The Sargent Pepper's period was just the first inning.
So, is this the 7th inning stretch?
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Post by Doc on Jul 21, 2006 1:01:20 GMT -5
Well.. it was quite awesome, much more so than I expected going in! The Bank of America Pavilion is a pretty small venue, more like a large theater, and sitting right on the water, so you had a nice ocean breeze wafting in. (it's a covered outdoor kinda thing) So, after I ate some overpriced junk food, and got ripped off on a couple of beers, (7 bucks each!) we went in and waited; he was a little late, but just 15 minutes or so. The show was a real value for your money, and here's why: You didn't just get Ringo, you got solo performances from his "all star" members, such as Edgar Winter, Richard Marx, Sheila E., Billy Squier, and Rod Argent. Hamish Stuart, who was a member of Bill's band during the live shows during some of the 90's, played bass. (Ringo referred to him as the "guy who keeps us all together") Edgar Winter...what a trip this guy is.. you'd have to see it, but the sight of him running around the stage dressed in black, seemingly highly talented in any instrument he chose to play, be it keyboard, drums or even the sax was something else. Funny line.. He was talking about how in the early days of his career he went on stage and played piano and was tired of being trapped behind this large instrument.. So he said: "That's why I invented the strap-on"....(long pause, filled with chuckling from the audience) "keyboard that is.." ;D Like most of the artists, he played material with which we were all quite familiar, so naturally he did "Frankenstein". Sheila E. is someone I knew next to nothing about, when I heard the name I always assumed she must be one of those fluff top 40 artists, but amazingly she plays a mean set of drums. (she was the drummer for the times Ringo was up front, and joined him when he sat behind his own set) A small kit was placed in the front, and she pounded out an amazing solo, even breaking a stick halfway through! She and Ringo did a littlle "banter" thing as part of the show, and Ringo noted that it was always different each time. She said this line: "....and Paul McCartney isn't here but..." The audience gives a collective "Awwwww", (like, poor Ringo) and then they go through this bit where she placates him, but that was an interesting line, hmmm. My impression was one of a group of people who really enjoyed working together, they were in it for a good time, and it showed. Doubtful that these small venues are making them the megabucks, so it had better be fun I would think. It was a nice intimate evening, nothing like the Sir Paul show with it's special effects and cast/crew of thousands. (although which I did enjoy as I've said) Also notable that Ringo seems to have had a small group of really really dedicated fans there, some of whom he seems to know on a first name basis. ("hey, how ya doing there so and so", etc) Anyway, yes the show was great! I would have really enjoyed the show. Impressive line-up on the bill; sounds like a wery well structured presentation, and way fun. Must see if it is coming thru Atlanta. The venue you saw it at sounds cool. I always enjoyed Sheila E's song and video "The Glamourous Life" from 1984, I think..... www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubbiXO3fOtM&search=sheila%20ecool opening page:, Ringo and Sheila on tour: www.sheilae.com/www.sheilae.com/home.shtmlwww.imdb.com/name/nm0246994/"E" stands for Escovedo, she is the daughter of latin percussionist Pete Escovedo. www.sheilae.com/about/history.html
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Post by Doc on Jul 25, 2006 23:27:10 GMT -5
That is very interesting that Larry Olivier had an affair with Danny Kaye. Wow. I always thought that Danny Kaye might've swung both ways. Olivier looked like he might've also. Hmmmm. As far as Ringo boarding with Viv... If she was into younger men, why the hell not Rumors persist that VIv was a pretty wild swinger at some later points in her life........ Well, perhaps she had some issues to work out. Whatever. No matter. She'll always be a grand lady in my book.
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Post by Doc on Jul 23, 2006 23:56:40 GMT -5
And Gable replied, "And, you, madam, are NO lady"..... "Whah, Rhay-ett But-luh, Ah've got a good mahnd ta......" Poor Viv had some difficulties. TB and manic depression. Slight alcoholism. By the time this picture was taken, Larry was divorced from her and remarried to Joan Plowright. (sp?) Danny Kaye? Really? I never heard that one, before........ It was a Biography of either Larry or Vivian...but I don't remember what program, if it was the "Biography" program, or something on another channel, like A&E or TMC.... Vivian was starting to go downhill by then.... By that time Clark Gable was......gone with the wind..... Reminds me of the Carol Burnett spoof when Harvey Korman, as "Rhatt Butler" said, "Frankly my dear, I don't gi......" Starlet slammed the door on him.....Remember when she took the curtain off the window, and when she dressed up and came down the stairs, she had the curtain rod in her shoulders? That was classic... Back to this....I wonder what Vivian saw in "Ritchie"? As someone with frankly enough wit and compassion to keep her calm and mentally pre-occupied on the flight. I don't think she enjoyed flying. As I understand it, she was a rapt listener and an engaging conversationalist who enjoyed word play, clever innuendo and ribald stories. I have heard that she had periods of mental stress and disturbing mood swings, bu she certainly looks lively and in good spirits here. No doubt she would have been terribly curious about the Beatles story up to the point, and Ringo no doubt kept her enthralled and amused on the flight. Well, that is, if they sat nearby each other. I'd rather thank that as opposed to her sitting in first class alone, drooling over a glass of wine while petting one of her nine thousand cats and purring, "Oh, Larry, Larry, what went wrong with us? How can I get you back? Who is this Plowright woman? As God is my witness...." No, no, I am sure our Viv was well beyond lapsing into a melancholy pity party as long as there were wonderful persons like Ringo around to chat with and so forth. My guess: they got along notably well......but, I've not seen a mention i the couple of biographic accounts I read, but maybe in one of them.....
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Post by Doc on Jul 22, 2006 0:25:31 GMT -5
Viv: Why you, sir, are no gentleman.... Ringo: Well fiddle dee dee.....Sorry, I'm not Larry Olivier...but I do have my own special abilities.... Viv: Well, so I've heard.... I wonder if she was going through some strange phaze at this time in her life? After finding out her husband had a fling with Danny Kaye, I don't suppose so. And Gable replied, "And, you, madam, are NO lady"..... "Whah, Rhay-ett But-luh, Ah've got a good mahnd ta......" Poor Viv had some difficulties. TB and manic depression. Slight alcoholism. By the time this picture was taken, Larry was divorced from her and remarried to Joan Plowright. (sp?) Danny Kaye? Really? I never heard that one, before........
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Post by Doc on Jul 21, 2006 17:50:58 GMT -5
flying?
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Post by Doc on Jul 21, 2006 16:25:26 GMT -5
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Post by Doc on Apr 13, 2006 0:47:58 GMT -5
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Post by Doc on Sept 1, 2007 1:49:38 GMT -5
Ringo will be on ABC monday night Nightline. Will we discover anything new from his royal cryptic-ness? Well, only if we get our questions in for him, under the wire. Start posting, people. Someone will relay our queries, and then he'll have time to formulate some very telling, but incredibly discreet, responses.
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Post by Doc on Nov 23, 2006 23:42:06 GMT -5
Oh, I see. I was wrong again. Well, thanks, Total, for the information.
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