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Post by ramone on Sept 21, 2023 12:47:48 GMT -5
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Post by ramone on Sept 16, 2023 19:14:05 GMT -5
Hi, In your very first post you said: 'Not sure why you [ forum members] all continue to pretend like any of this is real. Don’t really understand the end goal other than purposely trying to confuse folks, which in theory means you are trying to harm folks then.' So, forum members might be trying to harm and/or confuse. The purpose of my posts were to show that: A: logically the ones that put this all into motion way back started the confusion ( not forum members decades later that are asking questions) B: to introduce some interesting pics that might intrigue new ones that perhaps have never seen such. They might or might not intrigue you or others. Tutti i gusti son gusti - which I believe means - to each his/her own.
If you feel this is not a place for you to be feel free to not read/participate. Be well, peace
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Post by ramone on Sept 15, 2023 11:22:26 GMT -5
We shouldn't take a thread away from the subject matter . These pics could easily be in a Height thread but I think I'm addressing our 1st poster's claim that this is all bullsh** And someone looking into this is immersing themselves into the bullsh**. But, the person delving into this could easily say to themselves: 'it's obvious it's two different people - anyone with any critical thinking ability can see this.' But, then our intrepid researcher comes across a pic such as this: And say 'wow! this height trend continues!' And the question that comes to mind is Jane A. seems to be playing along with this thing. But why. Under duress? Did Paul request this because he has taken himself out of the limelight? A whole other line of questions come up. And the 'adventure' continues.
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Post by ramone on Sept 15, 2023 0:12:06 GMT -5
And then these sincere people come across this pic - 'Yup, Paul is shorter than the other lads he's sitting with'
But wait - in this pic they're sitting again and inexplicably this 'Paul' is certainly taller!' Is it any wonder people are scratching their heads?
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Post by ramone on Sept 14, 2023 23:51:47 GMT -5
And you can have people further investigating and coming across a pic where they might say ' Paul looks like he's about 5' 8" (somewhere between Ringo and John)
Then see him next to Mal Evans (6' 3") and understand why Paul seems dwarfed by him. Yet , inexplicably 'Paul' seems to be closing in on Mal's height in another pic. (not to mention they look different)
Who would be considered more the one causing confusion - the puzzle maker or the one trying to solve the puzzle?
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Post by ramone on Sept 14, 2023 21:40:35 GMT -5
And not to derail this thread but things like this is what confuses people. A guy slightly taller than Ringo becomes a giant in a matter of months. (yes, I know the approx. dates of the pics - but I'm making a point) - and now towers over him. I think most sincere people interested in this subject question why. And aren't trying to confuse anyone.
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Post by ramone on Sept 14, 2023 21:24:13 GMT -5
From the first link above - "I loaded isolated sections of Sir Paul from the beginning of Long Tall Sally and the isolated first verse of Sir Paul’s vocal from Sgt Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band into Easy Voice Biometrics. The test resulted in a 53% match. "
So, 50% is considered a flip of a coin as to whether something is this OR that.
And this is concerning songs that aren't even the same.
Author adds: " I believe the percentage rate is high enough to confirm a positive identification even though by biometric software standards we would like to see a higher percentage of certainty. "
This flip of the coin certainty is considered conclusive?
I'm critically thinking that if you would either lose your house or keep it in a bet that's determined by a flip of a coin - it wouldn't be considered by most people a brilliant thing to do.
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Post by ramone on Sept 12, 2023 15:42:31 GMT -5
To me, it's pretty hard to deny a replacement.
But yes, the whole death scenario can be up for grabs as far as exactly what's meant.
If we look at flowers in the dirt (Sgt P) it seems to be telling us A Beatles exists but THE Beatles don't anymore.
But, even that is an 'out front - what people see' thing - if in fact JPM was still behind the scenes contributing.
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Post by ramone on Sept 5, 2023 20:00:31 GMT -5
Tony B.
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Post by ramone on Sept 4, 2023 21:13:57 GMT -5
'flowers in your hair'
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Post by ramone on Sept 2, 2023 14:49:50 GMT -5
Welcome!
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Post by ramone on Sept 1, 2023 11:06:53 GMT -5
I'm no expert but I've found sometimes we don't feel guilty about things we should and feel guilty about things we shouldn't.
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Post by ramone on Aug 28, 2023 21:39:36 GMT -5
Garden Path
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Post by ramone on Aug 26, 2023 10:13:01 GMT -5
I think sometimes (as with types of dementia) a person might actually not know they did something. Or it could be she knew but felt embarrassed it happened and realized it was extra work for you and didn't want to come grips with that.
Taking care of elderly people is a challenge to say the least.
According to ACV - the MO was to just deny, deny. During Watergate no matter what was discovered Nixon et al would just double down with the lies. But, it did catch up with them.
Will the whole PWR matter catch up with those involved? Who knows. Watergate had senate committee power to help figure things out. Not sure that type of influence is going to apply here.
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Post by ramone on Aug 16, 2023 13:35:26 GMT -5
Another example: "When Lennon played an early version of “Come Together” for the other Beatles, McCartney pointed out that it was very similar to Chuck Berry’s 1956 single “You Can’t Catch Me.” McCartney said, “John acknowledged it was rather close to it, so I said, ‘Well, anything you can do to get away from that.'” So they slowed it down and McCartney added a “swampy” bass line. The lyrics, however, included “Here come old flat-top/He come groovin’ up slowly,” a fairly direct lift of Berry’s “Here come a flat-top/He was movin’ up with me.” In an interview, Lennon acknowledged the song’s source, which proved inconvenient when Morris Levy, music-world heavy and publisher of “You Can’t Catch Me,” sued Lennon in 1973." www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/beatles-5-boldest-rip-offs-54145/1.05:
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Post by ramone on Aug 16, 2023 13:12:27 GMT -5
The Chopin comparison is spot on (from that link)
Haven't seen Doc on lately but, yes, I think his input would be valuable.
"Question: Paul, many of the top artists in the pop field have said that The Beatles have been a major influence on their music. Are there any artists who have had an important influence on you?
Paul McCartney: Oh yes, nearly everyone. We pinch as much from other people as much as they pinch from us."
(24 Aug, 1966 interview)
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Post by ramone on Aug 15, 2023 15:39:32 GMT -5
"I will reveal that I was told by a UK musician from the 60s that JPM went "underground to write". He was still under contract to the Beatles so helped out in private. It was though William in public and on record. It's a crazy situation which no-one seems to have all the pieces of the jigsaw." (Caya) "Ramone Post '66? In a "silent partner" aspect...yes. In a "gone on holiday" kinda way...yes. In a "having a luverly time, wish you were here" scenario...yes. In a "can you take me back where I came from" hinted request...yes. Apollo" "Paul wanted to retire from the limelight. The disastrous 1966 World tour was the end for him. He also had health issues. The replacement was meant to be temporary, and Paul was still contracted to write for the band. However, it continued after the success of Sgt Pepper. Paul wasn't convinced about the change of musical direction. This is why Lennon sang “so Sgt Pepper took you by surprise”. The replacement, William, as I've said, was actually a better musician than Paul. Paul was a better songwriter so it was a great partnership. There is clear differences between the two. William is taller, longer face, one has attached earlobes, the other doesn't. There is evidence throughout the years. Many deliberate clues from Beatles people. Both Paul and William were on the magical mystery tour bus! You can tell the difference. " So. let me get this straight. This person Kenny helps Liam get this info out. K thinks JPM is alive but he helps Liam who thinks JPM died. Why would someone do that exactly?
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Post by ramone on Aug 11, 2023 19:28:01 GMT -5
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Post by ramone on Aug 4, 2023 10:19:53 GMT -5
"I will reveal that I was told by a UK musician from the 60s that JPM went "underground to write". He was still under contract to the Beatles so helped out in private. It was though William in public and on record. It's a crazy situation which no-one seems to have all the pieces of the jigsaw." (Caya)
"Ramone
Post '66? In a "silent partner" aspect...yes. In a "gone on holiday" kinda way...yes. In a "having a luverly time, wish you were here" scenario...yes. In a "can you take me back where I came from" hinted request...yes.
Apollo"
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Post by ramone on Jul 30, 2023 14:13:49 GMT -5
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Post by ramone on Jul 26, 2023 13:15:47 GMT -5
It would be interesting to have a pint with Blake's wife (Jann) who was right in there during the whole process. 'how long did it take to make granny?' 'how long do you think it took to design the drum front so it would read "he die" with a mirror?'
Ya know - basic stuff
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Post by ramone on Jul 25, 2023 23:36:48 GMT -5
"The term “helter skelter” actually predates both The Beatles and Manson, and in the U.K. it actually is a name used to describe an amusement park ride a: tall wooden structure, with a spiral slide around the outside of it. Going back even further, this term comes from a word used to describe “disorderly haste or confusion” and was first coined in the 1500s. Helter and skelter mean nothing apart from one another, but put together they simply mean "chaos." "Unfortunately for the band, Manson took this seemingly innocent rock song and interpreted it for his own diabolical purposes. Manson believed that The Beatles were sending coded messages in their songs to start a racial war. " www.refinery29.com/en-us/what-is-helter-skelter-charles-manson-meaning
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Post by ramone on Jul 25, 2023 12:55:10 GMT -5
(Cayatana) Just like Apollo put it: “Nobody was to step outside the dotted lines. The plan, to deny. Keeps things on a level playing ground. "Nope, never happened." But, what about this and that? "Sorry mate, never happened." Dig? The same went for those behind the curtain, as well. We cannot stop those that see beyond the illusion. Kinda falls in line with the game plan. I've stated that there are those things which I must keep close to me chest. If one was to discover these "things" without the help of those that remain silent, a greater truth is to be found. I have, with you, stepped outside and trampled the flowers in the dirt. Slowly, another story comes to light. This is YOUR story. The true story will never be told. It is to be discovered. And when you finally are at peace wth your discovery, expect none to "fess up" and authenticate. It is not in our plans.”
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Post by ramone on Jul 25, 2023 9:54:07 GMT -5
Had the same thought myself Jarv. Lark: "a merry, carefree adventure; frolic; escapade. · innocent or good-natured mischief; a prank."
Perhaps it was two things at once - or a working in tandem thing.
There was the serious real replacement aspect and the lads (et al) having a kind of escapade with it all at the same time.
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Post by ramone on Jul 24, 2023 15:20:21 GMT -5
Another oddity in Be att EL lore. (Help!) YEAH, A full moon would have been two weeks prior.
What I can't find (yet) is whether the account above is from the Paul that actually took the spill or Sir P just recounting it. (anthology?) (I know SiR P has talked about it - just don't know if it's this account mentioned above )
And then he's sporting a mustache right after his spill? The Rain vid is without. Did he grow it in Jan '66 then shave it before Rain? Then grow it for his Africa trip?
(oh, and if anyone thinks that's JPM in that Africa footage - well, I think you'll believe just about anything. Just IMHO - and not meant to offend but ya just might need medication, lol!)
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