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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on May 1, 2024 19:58:27 GMT -5
Some screen shots above first vid - Same guy? If those dates are correct - evidently not. Just listen to Pete... The parting on the left is now parting on the right And the beards have all grown longer overnight
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Feb 22, 2024 21:44:10 GMT -5
Tinfoil hat time Excerpt- "This has been a theory from the very beginning, as most people know, but all the proof I have seen up to now isn't completely convincing. What we normally see is a lot of speculation about the alleged shooting in December of 1980. Many discrepancies have indeed been found, but I will not repeat them (except for a couple in my endnotes). I find more recent photographic evidence to be far easier and quicker to compile—and more convincing at a glance, as it were—so that is what I will show you here. All this evidence is based on research I did myself. I am not repeating the work of anyone else and I take full responsibility for everything here. If it appeals to you, great. If not, feel free to dismiss it. That is completely up to you, and if you don't agree, fine. When I say “proof” in my title, I mean it is proof enough for me. I no longer have a reasonable doubt." mileswmathis.com/lennon.pdfMark Staycer, the guy who some people believed was the real John Lennon, passed on 12/30/23. www.reynolds-jonkhoff.com/obituaries/Mark-Staycer/#!/TributeWall
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Feb 20, 2024 21:13:14 GMT -5
Maybe this is real purpose of the Beatles trip to India? When Indian parliamentarians saw a CIA plot in the Beatles’ stay at Maharishi Mahesh Yogi’s ashram not everyone was happy about the Fab Four’s visit to India 50 years ago.Excerpted with permission from Across the Universe: The Beatles in India, Ajoy Bose, Penguin Random House.
amp.scroll.in/article/869696/when-indian-parliamentarians-saw-a-cia-plot-in-the-beatles-stay-at-maharishi-mahesh-yogis-ashram BOOK EXCERPT
Ajoy Bose Feb 23, 2018 · 11:30 am
Despite the adulation and enthusiasm of the growing band of Beatles fans in India, their trip to Rishikesh was not without its controversies. There were many people in the country who were openly hostile to both Maharishi [Mahesh Yogi] and the arrival of the rock band and other celebrities from the West in his ashram. In the Lok Sabha, the elected Lower House of the Indian Parliament, the Opposition went up in arms alleging that the yogi was in cahoots with the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and that many of his guests from abroad were actually foreign spies. The charge was led by communist members of Parliament who formed a sizeable block in the Opposition benches and were supported by the socialists who too felt that something fishy was happening in Rishikesh.
‘Rishikesh, the Hotbed of Espionage,’ the front-page headline of the Free Press Journal newspaper had screamed the next morning. ‘Rishikesh has become the hotbed of espionage thronged by the Beatles yearning for Nirvana and intelligence agents nibbling at India’s security, Left Communist member K. Anirudhan complained in the Lok Sabha today,’ read the dramatic first paragraph of the report.
The veteran parliamentarian belonging to the Marxist Communist Party had painted an alarming picture in his lengthy supplementary question in the House. ‘The Beatles and hippies have set up their own colony in Rishikesh. And a foreign secret service boss is sitting at the feet of the yogi and living in the inner camp of the ashram ostensibly seeking nirvana,’ he had shrieked as his leftist and socialist colleagues on the Opposition benches thumped their tables.
Anirudhan had also expressed outrage at the luxurious quarters of the Beatles inside the ashram. ‘The huts built there are extremely comfortable. In fact, in one place palaces have been constructed,’ revealed the MP. He had also been very critical of the local Uttar Pradesh government gifting land to the Maharishi for an airstrip under pressure from powerful central leaders, and alleged that a special aircraft had been arranged for him by a suspicious foreign association.
Clearly, for a section of Indian MPs, the Beatles and their high-flying guru had touched the wrong chord.
The Himalayan valley of Rishikesh was located in the state of Uttar Pradesh which, when the Beatles arrived at the Maharishi’s ashram in mid February 1968, was under the political rule of a coalition government that had the socialists as one of its partners. With the socialists espousing the cause of the local landless peasants who were upset with the guru for trying to grab land to construct an airstrip to ferry his famous and wealthy disciples, the local authorities gave the Maharishi and his foreign guests a hard time.
In fact, United News of India (UNI), one of the country’s leading news agencies, quoted local police sources to pinpoint a suspected CIA agent called Russell Dean Brines in the ashram. ‘According to police sources Mr. Brines carried an accreditation card signed by Mr. Rowley, allegedly chief of the U.S. Secret Service. The card said that Mr. Brines was correspondent of the Continental Press Incorporated and covered the White House. A local police officer who for obvious reasons prefers to remain anonymous told UNI that Mr. Brines’ link with the secret service (presumably CIA) had not been contradicted by the American Embassy so far. Ordinarily the embassy quickly denies such reports appearing in the Press,’ said the UNI report.
A flustered Maharishi hurriedly summoned the media after newspaper reports connected his ashram with the CIA. He did admit that an American called Russell Dean Brines had come to his ashram one day in early March a few weeks after the Beatles had arrived. The UNI report added, ‘The Maharishi said Mr. Brines was introduced to the ashram staff as an author and journalist from the United States by his Indian companion. “I did not grant him a personal interview but saw him in the audience. I did not even talk to him,” he said.’
The Maharishi complained to correspondents at the ashram that it was not his job to take care of spies; it was the duty of the government and the immigration authorities to stop them from entering India. ‘Why do they allow spies? I do not investigate the profession or antecedents of the men who come here for meditation. As far as I am concerned all are welcome. But there is no spy at the ashram as far as I know,’ he asserted.
Ridiculing the Marxist MP’s charge in Parliament that he was harbouring foreign spies, the Maharishi retorted, ‘But I thought the Marxists were pro-Peking.’ It was a reference to the treason charges against members of the left-wing party during the Sino-Indian war a few years ago for their pronounced tilt towards the Chinese communist regime.
While the band was quite bemused by the controversy, Paul was the only Beatle to react to charges of a foreign spy racket at the ashram. ‘Do you really think England is coming back to take over India and we have to spy for it?’ he had asked journalists.
Despite the media hype and the furore in Parliament over allegations of a CIA spy ring at the Maharishi’s ashram, no concrete evidence ever turned up to prove the charges. But ironically, some years later, a top Soviet spy, Yuri Bezmenov, after defecting to the West, revealed that the KGB had sent him to the ashram after the Beatles and other Western celebrities had visited it to find out about the kind of people who went there to learn Transcendental Meditation. He still had a faded black-and-white photograph of himself posing with the Maharishi.
‘The KGB was even curious about Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, a great spiritual leader, or maybe a great charlatan and crook, depending on from which side you are looking at him. Beatles were trained at his ashram in India how to meditate; Mia Farrow and other useful idiots from Hollywood visited his school and they returned to United States absolutely zonked out of their minds with marijuana, hashish, and crazy ideas of meditation.... Obviously KGB was very fascinated with such a beautiful school, such a brainwashing center for stupid Americans,’ Bezmenov told author Edward Griffin in an interview in 1985 on his work for the Soviet spy network.
There was also considerable resentment and anger towards the Maharishi among rival gurus and yogis in the many ashrams and yoga centres that thrived in the Valley of Saints. Most of them were jealous of the storm of national and international publicity around the Maharishi’s ashram with the arrival of the Beatles. Rishikesh was rife with speculation that he was making a vast fortune from the foreign celebrities who had become his disciples and there was worry among local holy men that they would soon be marginalized in their own region, where many of them had been running ashrams and yoga centres for decades.
With tensions mounting in the area, police protection around the ashram was increased fourfold, newspapers reported. There were strict instructions from [Internal Security Minister Vidya Charan] Shukla that the Maharishi and his foreign disciples had to be protected at all costs from both left-wing activists and rival holy men.
Ironically, as wire services across the world buzzed with the news of the Beatles and Mia Farrow in the Maharishi’s ashram, it provoked an angry outburst from the Los Angeles-based guru Swami Vishnudevananda Saraswati who had been the first Indian holy man to approach the Fab Four while they were shooting their film Help! in the Bahamas three years ago. Clearly peeved at the ease with which the Maharishi, despite appearing on the scene later, had appropriated the world’s most famous rock stars, the swami lashed out at his rival for administering what he described as ‘watered-down yoga’. ‘He tells young people that it is easy to find inner peace. That you can drink, smoke and eat anything you want and need only meditate just fifteen minutes a day. This is not correct,’ he complained. He also had a problem with the Maharishi’s scraggly beard. ‘It is only to attract attention,’ declared the clean-shaven swami.
The conflict between tradition and modernity over the Beatles in India spilled over into the world of Hindustani classical music as well as religious beliefs.
Even as the Beatles fan club grew in leaps and bounds in India, old-world purists of Hindustani classical music were disappointed that sitar maestro Ravi Shankar had associated himself with a rock band, while conservative Hindus were upset with the Maharishi for allegedly demeaning the concept of sacred mantras and meditation to make a fast buck off foreign celebrities.
The hype and publicity around the Beatles’ trip to India coincided with a concerted attack on Ravi Shankar. It reflected an interesting tussle between self-appointed guardians of Indian cultural traditions and what were perceived as modern and global influences brought by Shankar to the classical musical ethos. By the time the Beatles arrived in India, the legendary sitarist was believed to be spending more time abroad than in his country and the tremendous response he received from foreign audiences was seen as an indication of him selling out to the West.
In his autobiography, some years later, Ravi Shankar himself lamented this questioning of his loyalty to Indian classical traditions:
At the same time as being feted in the West, I was also experiencing the effects of false propaganda formed in India. I was in the news all the time, but along with much praise there was also condemnation of me for having become a ‘hippy’ or even a member of the Beatles and for being sacrilegious toward our music: ‘commercializing,’ ‘Americanising,’ and ‘ jazzifying’ it, not playing ‘pure music’ for Westerners.
Interviews with India’s most well-known musician during that period reflect his deep sense of hurt at being lampooned for losing his head over the Beatles and Western audiences. In an interview with V. Patanjali of the Times of India, Ravi Shankar said he was upset with a fellow musician who had recently remarked that what was being presented in the West in the name of the sitar was but a satire of it. ‘There should be some professional ethics!’ the sitarist lamented. He also asserted, ‘Allow me to repeat that I have a strong enough sense of responsibility never to degrade our music.’
In the same interview Ravi Shankar strongly denied that he was trying to change the fundamental character of Hindustani classical music, conceding that he did modify it but ‘only in the presentation of our music’. He said, ‘People in the West as you know attend recitals not exceeding a few hours. I must therefore present our music in small doses. In fact I took my cue from the Carnatic concert tradition in which select items of a very classical nature are rendered in the beginning. There is no question of my modernizing Indian music. I am satisfied with the results. Listeners in New York, London, Paris, Los Angeles and many other cities are not accustomed to sitting through recitals lasting over four hours and in places ask me to play even less.
Asserting that he was teaching George ‘as an individual and not a Beatle’, Ravi Shankar said that his love for the sitar had led to the ‘big sitar explosion’ and ‘overnight I was the hero of the teenagers’. Asked why he spent so much time abroad, Ravi Shankar replied, ‘I am responsible to my teacher Ustad Allauddin Khan, to my gharana, and to Indian music. I cannot allow the Hippies to strum the sitar as if it were a guitar. Having been instrumental in creating the sitar craze I consider it is up to me to see that our traditions are respected. And I think I am succeeding in the task.’
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Feb 19, 2024 19:38:56 GMT -5
This Bill Davis business rang a bell with me, but I couldn't for the life of me remember why. Turns out that our old friend Valis posted this back in the day. Oddly enough, the translated article mentions two different doubles for Paul, Bill Davis AND Keith Allison... The next article is taken from a dutch magazine in either September or October 1966 which I translated into english. On the one hand I think it's a made up story because It is not noted in any other article I've got and there is no mention of a Beatle Protection Society or Ron Proctor anywhere online. But the story really makes me think. Here is first the article and after that some notes from me ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -The real and the fake Beatles- America has it's own Beatles. They look like the real ones 100%, are just as tall and behave in the same way as John, Paul, George and Ringo. They are called Ron, Bill, Keith and Tim: The Beatle Decoys. What is going on here? In America exists The Beatles Protection Society, also called The Beatle Bobbies, whose job it is to protect The Beatles against the hysteria and idolatry of the fans on their American tours. Recently the society realized an amazing plan; to form fake Beatles who have to camouflage the arrival and departure of the real Beatles at their concerts. Like a month ago at the Baltimore Theatre: thousands of fans blocked the artistexit, waiting for The Beatles. Suddenly Ringo Starr (a.k.a Ron Rictor) and Paul McCartney ( a.k.a. Bill Davis) came outside and while they were under attack the real Beatles left through another exit. The Beatle Decoy's are happy with their (double) life. Ron, the leader, told us:"We even play the same instruments as The Beatles. Paul, I mean Keith is even lefthanded just like McCartney. We even wear the same clothes." The fake Beatle that looks the most like the original is Keith Allison, who plays Paul. He looks so alike that they even started a fanclub for him, the Keith Allison Fanclub.; he receives- as being Keith -1000 fanletters a day (!). Keith Allison used to be bassplayer for the Crickets and was "discovered" by The BeatleProtection Society when he was a guest, sitting at a table, in the "Whiskey A Go Go (tv) Show". After the broadcast hundreds of people called in to the show to ask: "Was that Paul McCartney?". The producer, Dick Clark, was also struck by the resemblance and contracted the imitation Paul for 12 episodes of "Where the action is". -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I doubt this story because I have no other articles about this and the "new" names aren't found online, but of course it might be a story that was not supposed to come out. There were doubles in 1966, and I am 100% sure that the article is from that period; it's from my mother's collection. 1.how would a dutch mag know about that Keith Allison, he is a good Fakepaul, so him being mentioned lends some credibility to this story 2.The doublenames of all 4 Beatles are called, Paul has got a double double name: Bill!!! and Keith Allison 3.a Beatle Protection society, huh? come on that must be a joke 4.They are a decoy for the Beatles travels, but also make music!? 5.They are a decoy but Keith already has a fanclub!? 6. I've seen photos of Keith so I know he is not Bill, but something happened in those days surely, involving doubles. 7. I googled on Keith Allison and got this page: www.psycho-jello.com/monkees/standphotos.html , which was directly followed by a page about the Monkees' stand ins www.psycho-jello.com/monkees/keith1.html , more doubles here's a scan from the original article, I hope I can get up a bigger scan later. It might be a bit hard to read, and even though most of you don't speak Dutch, I put it up as proof, that I didn't make this story up myself. All Love Jan
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Feb 17, 2024 19:01:19 GMT -5
Here's a channel of interest.
And here are a few sample vids...
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Feb 10, 2024 19:59:55 GMT -5
This is article from 3 October 1966. It mention "Paul" with short hair. It is possible this is mention the first ever sighting of replacement. Where did you find this article?
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Feb 8, 2024 21:28:28 GMT -5
One and one and one is three. 3/10 October 3rd, 1966...
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Feb 8, 2024 20:20:43 GMT -5
Here's Braverman's Cream of the Beatles in its entirety...
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Feb 6, 2024 18:16:50 GMT -5
Just bumping this thread because it's worth a fresh look...
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Jan 19, 2024 19:55:20 GMT -5
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Jan 18, 2024 18:25:49 GMT -5
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Dec 27, 2023 21:04:41 GMT -5
THAT'S the color photo of Derek Taylor on the boat that I was referring to. Thanks for posting, Jarv! Ok, so now we have both photos in the same post, so it's much easier to compare Derek in the color pic to "Derek" in the black and white pic. Of course, the two Dereks are shot from different angles, but it looks to me as if Derek's jawline and nose in the color photo are much longer than they are in the black and white photo (even accounting for the different angle), while the cheekbones are much more prominent in the black and white photo, to the extent that it appears to me as if Paul's profile was attached to Derek's head in the black and white photo. In fact, the nose-cheek-chin area of black and white "Derek" looks like a mirror image of the gentleman on our far left, in the double breasted suit jacket... Without the context of the color photo of Derek, showing him occupying that chair and wearing that striped jacket, it NEVER would have occurred to me that it could could have been him, because it doesn't look like him. It looks like Paul.
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Dec 25, 2023 22:59:59 GMT -5
I think this roused discussion because of the implications of the whole thing. If the pic is Juber, it's Juber. Oh well. 'Nothing to be seen here - move along'. BUT, IF it's JPM (and it certainly looks like him) - It's mind blowing. One, he didn't die. It shows that. Two, No one seemed to think it wasn't Bill on the upright bass in the shot - so, it clearly shows there is a replacement (Bill is right there in the same room). Three, it would seem the two have a cordial relationship - one where JPM could drop by and, if not doing anything musically to speak of, was hanging out evidently. The pic was along the same lines as the Junk boat . There's Billy in the middle (and who can that be on the left - hmmm...) Can't remember if there was an absolute conclusion about it but it was the same questions that came up - and implications. And I wonder who the guy on the right (sitting next to a girl) is? There was tons of discussion of the boat photo here... invanddis.proboards.com/thread/5450/rare-photo-paul-faul...in which I suggested that the chap in the striped jacket was Derek Taylor with Paul's face attached in a crude bit of 1968 "Photoshop." Since then, I got the book (Denis O'Dell's "At the Apple's Core") which is the source for the story of the boat trip in the East River. The picture in question (the one above with "3 Pauls") is NOT in the O'Dell book, but the book DOES include a photo of Derek Taylor on the boat, sitting in THAT chair, with THAT hair style, THAT mustache, and wearing THAT striped jacket, which in the book's color photo is white with GREEN stripes. I'd post the photo of green-jacketed Derek, but I don't have a Photobucket or equivalent account, so you'll just have to take my word for it. Having said all of that, though, it still looks to me as if Paul's face has been stitched onto Derek's head, right along the left jawline, although it could also just be Derek, who after all, did have the same hair color/style and mustache as Pepper Paul.
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Dec 25, 2023 10:42:28 GMT -5
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Dec 22, 2023 19:35:06 GMT -5
This is a terrific series, magnificently edited to tell a story almost entirely through the Beatles words and music.
The creator doesn't come out and say it directly, but it's strongly suggested that John may have wanted a sexual relationship with Paul, but was spurned.
Believe what you wish, but either way, this series is a trip...
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Dec 19, 2023 16:02:43 GMT -5
This has been discussed here before, but Ram was the 15th release. 01 Please Please Me 02 With The Beatles 03 A Hard Day's Night 04 Beatles For Sale 05 Help! 06 Rubber Soul 07 Revolver 08 Sgt. Pepper 09 Magical Mystery Tour 10 The Beatles (White Album) 11 Yellow Submarine 12 Abbey Road 13 Let It Be 14 McCartney 15 Ram Now put on your thinking caps and take a look at the images below.
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Dec 14, 2023 9:45:40 GMT -5
Play with subtitles turned on.
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Dec 9, 2023 18:57:30 GMT -5
Yesterday, June 14, 1965.
Just Paul and his guitar.
Yesterday, June 24, 1966.
Paul plays bass while John and George play guitar.
Same Paul in both?
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Dec 5, 2023 21:32:18 GMT -5
If you need a good belly laugh, this is hysterical.
It’s the “Literal Version” of the song, wherein the lyrics describe what’s happening in the video.
One of my favorite things ever.
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Dec 5, 2023 19:49:33 GMT -5
Denny Laine, British musician who co-founded The Moody Blues and Paul McCartney's Wings, dies at 79
The acclaimed singer and guitarist died Tuesday morning after health setbacks from interstitial lung disease, his wife wrote on social media.
Dec. 5, 2023, 2:48 PM EST / Updated Dec. 5, 2023, 3:57 PM EST By Marlene Lenthang and Courtney Brogle NBC News
Denny Laine, the British star musician who co-founded the iconic rock bands The Moody Blues and Paul McCartney's Wings, has died.
He was 79.
Laine died "peacefully" Tuesday morning at his home following "health setbacks" from interstitial lung disease, his wife, Elizabeth Hines, shared on his Facebook page.
"I was at his bedside, holding his hand as I played his favorite Christmas songs for him. He’s been singing Christmas songs the past few weeks and I continued to play Christmas songs while he’s been in ICU on a ventilator this past week," she wrote.
Hines said that the couple was hopeful he'd "overcome his health setbacks and return to the rehabilitation center and eventually home."
"Unfortunately, his lung disease, Interstitial Lung Disease (ILD), is unpredictable and aggressive; each infection weakened and damaged his lungs. He fought everyday. He was so strong and brave, never complained," she wrote.
She thanked his fans, who "sent him so much love" over the past few months, and also his surgeons, doctors and nurses.
"I thank you all for sending both of us love and support. It was my absolute honor and privilege to not only be his wife, but to care for him during his illness and vulnerability," Hines said.
She remembered her husband as "an amazingly wonderful person, so loving and sweet to me," who made her days "colorful."
"Thank you sweetie for loving me, for all the laughter, friendship, fun and for asking me to be your wife. I will love you forever," she wrote.
Laine helped form The Moody Blues in 1964 with hits like “Nights in White Satin” and “Go Now.” Laine was inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame as a Moody Blues member in 2018.
In 1971, he joined McCartney and his wife, Linda, to form Wings, helping write the songs “Don’t Let It Bring You Down” and “London Town.” After his time with Wings, he continued to make music in a solo career.
In an Instagram post, McCartney wrote that he was “very saddened to hear that my ex-bandmate, Denny Laine, has died,” noting the two “had had drifted apart but in recent years managed to reestablish our friendship and share memories of our times together.”
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Dec 3, 2023 19:57:40 GMT -5
Chock full of goodness, including the ultra-creepy little vignette of the Winged ones opening the trap door in the floor and looking down on earth as they're what ... escaping the apocalypse, in Starship 21ZNA9, perhaps?
Venus and mars are alright tonight...
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Dec 3, 2023 19:36:45 GMT -5
Nothing PWR about this, but it was produced and directed by our old friend Charles Braverman.
Enjoy...
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Nov 29, 2023 22:13:10 GMT -5
Rockestra documentary, 1978.
Curious as to who you all think is playing the role of Paul.
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Nov 28, 2023 23:31:22 GMT -5
“You declared you would be three inches taller. You only became what we made you.” ~The Punk And The Godfather
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Nov 28, 2023 18:14:42 GMT -5
Video description: A short video on the possible role that Billy Pepper taught/played with the Beatles from the early 1960s in Hamburg.
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