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Post by Jai Guru Deva on Jun 18, 2005 3:39:03 GMT -5
Today is June 18, 2005. Its Paul McCartney's birthday, he would have been 63IF. As for the other guy, the question is will we still need him, will we still feed him, when he's "64"? For the record, I was the first one to post anything about Tara Browne. Two years ago, I came across the photo of a smashed Lotus Elan and its caption mentioned TB. I had no clue who he was--never heard of him, never saw him before. However, when I looked at his face, then compared it to Sir Paul McCartney, I thought there was enough of a resemblance to warrent further investigation. On the old forum, I posted the two black and white photos along with a few pics of Sir Paul to mixed reactions. Uberkinder made a single image fade, also to mixed reviews. It must have been Uberkinder, also, whose PID e-mail to the Coast to Coast show made mention of TB, but Gary Patterson immediately poo-pooed the idea. SunKing denounced any investigation into Tara Browne as "Way off base!", essentially pushing everyone off the TB track and down the "Bill Shepherd" track. It quickly became obvious that two lonely photos of Tara Browne just wouldn't convince anyone, so I had to get creative. It has taken me this long to gather enough material together to make a definitive determination on TB.  I have a bunch of images which ought to make you wonder. The last one might possibly be photo of Brian Epstein from 1972--it's a real doozy! Thanks. |
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Post by Jai Guru Deva on Jun 18, 2005 3:50:52 GMT -5
To start, here some typical comparisons of James Paul McCartney and Sir Paul McCartney.    _____________________________________________ And now, Tara Browne and Sir Paul McCartney.     Probably the most prominent mark on the face of Tara Browne and Sir Paul McCartney is a triangulation of lines on the right upper lip. There are some photos of James Paul McCartney where it appears he has this same mark, but I think what's happening is a play of light and shadow. JPM had double smile wrinkles to the outside of his lips, and sometimes the way the light hits his face, it makes it looks similar. This is something we can debate. But clearly Tara Browne and Sir Paul both feature the triangulation on the right upper lip. Also, Sir Paul has had cosmetic surgery on his face--droopier eyelids, shorter nose, reshaped chin. Where the mouth is concerned, the lips were closed off, so it presents some confusion. Where JPM had the double smile wrinkles, it appears Sir Paul has the same thing. However, the left side of the mouth on Sir Paul's mouth gives the trick away, as the double smile wrinkles do not appear like the would on James Paul McCartney. Photo of James Paul McCartney.  |
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Post by Jai Guru Deva on Jun 18, 2005 4:01:41 GMT -5
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Post by Jai Guru Deva on Jun 18, 2005 4:09:24 GMT -5
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Post by Jai Guru Deva on Jun 18, 2005 4:24:36 GMT -5
A few comparison photos of Tara Browne's grandparents Geoffrey Henry Browne and Olwen Verena Ponsonby (by the way, she died in a motor accident) and Sir Paul and his children.   Sir Paul looks most like Olwen Verena Ponsonby. ___________________________________________________________________________ Some photos of Tara Browne's brother Garech. One thing which one might immediately notice is that he is short stature. Also, I founded the Irish band The Chieftains and I recently had a chance to listen to his voice on audio. He has a similar accent and speech pattern to Sir Paul, but his voice is deeper. Of Sir Paul's children, I think James Louis looks the most like Garech.  Comparison photos of Garech Browne and Sir Paul McCartney.  |
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Post by Jai Guru Deva on Jun 18, 2005 4:31:27 GMT -5
"The Golden Guinness Girls": sisters Oonagh, Maureen, and Aileen Guinness.  An amazing photo comparison of Stella and Maureen.  Here is a bigger photo of Aileen Guinness. This shot was taken on June 12, 1972 oustide London's law courts after Aileen won a High Court claim fo the return of eight pantings. However, I noticed something strangely familiar about the man walking behind her, he seems to bear a remarkable resemblance to Brian Epstein!  So who is that walking behind Aileen? Photo comparisons of Brian Epstein and the Mystery Man.  |
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Post by pennylane on Jun 19, 2005 7:28:16 GMT -5
wow.. I must say that Mary has a striking resemblance to Tara!
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Post by JoJo on Jun 19, 2005 17:19:49 GMT -5
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Post by Jai Guru Deva on Jun 19, 2005 19:09:37 GMT -5
Thanks JoJo. Let me give you the ages of the three women... Aileen Guinness: born 1904, died 1999 Maureen: born 1907, died 1998 Oonagh: born 1910, died 1996 Now remember, the photo of Aileen was taken in 1972 and she would have been 68 at the time. In 1973, Oonagh would have been 63 years old and Maureen, age 66. The blonde haired woman in the pub definitely looks like she is in her 60's, especially with her hairdo and the way she dresses. I think the woman and Aileen are a pretty good comparison; in my opionion, they look like they could be sisters. As for whether or not she is Oonagh, well, all I can say is the woman does have that look about her... The best image I have of a mature looking Maureen is a painting; I think it was done in 1967.  |
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Post by ReallyReallyDead on Jun 23, 2005 8:02:27 GMT -5
I'm not sure if this is anything more than a strange resemblance of the Sheppards (or whatever) and the Browns. |
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Post by xpt626 on Jun 23, 2005 14:24:07 GMT -5
I'm not sure if this is anything more than a strange resemblance of the Sheppards (or whatever) and the Browns. I agree... |
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Post by Jai Guru Deva on Jul 2, 2005 19:14:45 GMT -5
 Let's take a look a couple things... One is the slanted eyes. Both Sir Paul McCartney and Tara Browne have uneven eyes--his the left eye lower and right eye higher. On Tara, it's easier to see this on his three quarters headshot than the straight ahead one. I always thought Tara's genetic trait could be attributed more to the Guinness family, but looking at the photos again, it does appear like his father and grandmother on the Browne side also had uneven eyes. Sir Paul's passed this trait on to his children. Also on Tara, you might notice the jagged right eyelid which spikes up like a check mark; we discussed a similar type of facial anomaly on Sir Paul. James Paul McCartney did not have uneven eyes. What he had was his left eye was a little lazier than the right eye--the left eyelid drooped a little more. But both eyes were even. The second thing is the line on the right upper lip of both Sir Paul McCartney and Tara Browne. The right cheek crease comes down from the nose to the outside corner of the mouth. Then a line on the upper lip crosses over to the cheek crease forming a triangle. Again, this anomaly is easier seeb on the three quarters headshot. I had to look at a lot of photos of James Paul McCartney to determe whether or not he had the same type of anomaly. Let's take a look at one such confusing image...  Okay, this is JoJo's pic from the 1963 magazine. As you can see the way JPM's lip curves out, the folds of the mouth, and the way the light and shadows strike, it doesn't look so different from Sir Paul. Now, let's look at another photo... I think what is going on here is JPM had double smile wrinkles to the outside of the corners of the mouth. On the left side, there's the left cheek crease and a line between there and the outside corner of the lip. On the right is the cheek crease and then a line coming down from the right cheek crease and ending just short of the outside corner of the lip. But this little line does not cross over the lip like it does with Tara Browne. Comparison with Sir Paul it's a slightly different story. When talking about Sir Paul we must be reminded that he has had some cosmetic surgery to his face. Where the mouth is concerned, he has had his lips reshaped. Clearly, his mouth has been closed off where he once had a much wider smile. If we were to take Tara Browne's mouth and close off his lips, so that his smile ended where the little line begins on the right upper lip--and equal distance on the left side--I think he'd have a smile resembling Sir Paul's. The only reason the little line on Sir Paul's lip appears as though it doesn't cross over the lip like TB and stops short like JPM is because his mouth was closed off with cosmetic surgery. On the left side, Sir Paul McCartney does not have the smile wrinkle between cheek crease and the outer corner of the mouth. |
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Post by Jai Guru Deva on Jul 7, 2005 19:35:28 GMT -5
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Post by Jai Guru Deva on Jul 11, 2005 1:42:51 GMT -5
 Ear comparisons. There aren't any good shots Tara Browne's ears, so I had to do the next best thing and look at Dominick Browne. Notice the angularity, like an octagonal oval, and unattatched lobes of both Sir Paul McCartney and Dominick Browne's ears. Paul McCartney's ears are smaller and more round than Sir Paul, whose ears are more angular and perpendicular. JPM's ears also stick out more, while Sir Paul's and Dominick's are tapered back more, and his lobes are attatched.  |
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Post by nutopian on Jul 11, 2005 11:56:34 GMT -5
And this?  |
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Post by Jai Guru Deva on Jul 16, 2005 2:37:10 GMT -5
Nose, mouth and chin comparison photos. Remember Sir Paul McCartney has had cosmetic surgery to shorten his nose and reshape his chin. About the mouth, keep in mind both Sir Paul and Tara Browne have thin lips where the bottom lip squarishly juts out and the left cuspid is longer than the right cuspid on both men (James Paul McCartney had plumper lips and the right cuspid is longer than the left).   
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Post by Jai Guru Deva on Jul 31, 2005 2:02:02 GMT -5
Tara Browne with alterations as compared to Sir Paul McCartney. Using Dominick Browne as a reference, I used mixed media on top of Tara's photos to give him different appearances--varying hair length, facial hair, and giving him a closed mouth.   |
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Post by Doc on Aug 1, 2005 3:44:43 GMT -5
But, I still see two different Tara Browne's. One has a Roman forward type nose, the other has less full features and a slightly feminized look to the eyes/nose/lips. I truthfully, don't feel much familial similarities between the two Tara's and the Bill's. Maybe my visual categorizing is slipping down the drainpipe; but , and, as much as I appreciate this vein of research---I just haven't seen a notable connection yet. That's all to my eyes; though, JMO, maybe I am wrong.
The work of presentation, and aesthetic treatment you gave on all the different head shots, however, is wonderful and shows you have
major visual/spatial/artistics gifts.
Please don't shoot me for not seeing "family ties" in the mix; you've gotten past Andy Warhol, and haven't resorted to one Campbell's Soup Can.
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Post by ReallyReallyDead on Aug 1, 2005 12:22:12 GMT -5
I must admit, this is great PID evidence, showing Faul matches more to Tara than Paul!
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Post by Jai Guru Deva on Aug 1, 2005 14:41:27 GMT -5
But, I still see two different Tara Browne's. One has a Roman forward type nose, the other has less full features and a slightly feminized look to the eyes/nose/lips. I truthfully, don't feel much familial similarities between the two Tara's and the Bill's. Maybe my visual categorizing is slipping down the drainpipe; but , and, as much as I appreciate this vein of research---I just haven't seen a notable connection yet. That's all to my eyes; though, JMO, maybe I am wrong. The first time I looked at the two photos of Tara Browne, I wasn't entirely certain they were the same person. However, after studing their facial characteristics and members of the Browne and Guinness family, I could see I was dealing the same person. Sometimes someone can can look like a different person from two different angles--it also depends on lighting, shadow and exposure. As far as facial or familial resemblances, I'm just trying to remain objective here and let everyone be their own judge.  Perhaps the above photos of Sir Faulonious aren't the best example, because its fairly immediate to the eye that it's the same person. But you can see how the nose looks a bit different straight on, than from a three-quarter view . Well, it's good to know all those art classes I took a community college are paying off. So you think I'm better than Andy Warhol, eh? Maybe I should show off some of my stuff at New York's famed Museum of Modern Art (aka MOMA)... So here we have Sir Paul McCartney's penishead paintings and next to it are my facial comparisons! ;D |
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Post by Doc on Aug 1, 2005 20:23:00 GMT -5
But, I still see two different Tara Browne's. One has a Roman forward type nose, the other has less full features and a slightly feminized look to the eyes/nose/lips. I truthfully, don't feel much familial similarities between the two Tara's and the Bill's. Maybe my visual categorizing is slipping down the drainpipe; but , and, as much as I appreciate this vein of research---I just haven't seen a notable connection yet. That's all to my eyes; though, JMO, maybe I am wrong. The first time I looked at the two photos of Tara Browne, I wasn't entirely certain they were the same person. However, after studing their facial characteristics and members of the Browne and Guinness family, I could see I was dealing the same person. Sometimes someone can can look like a different person from two different angles--it also depends on lighting, shadow and exposure. As far as facial or familial resemblances, I'm just trying to remain objective here and let everyone be their own judge. Well, it's good to know all those art classes I took a community college are paying off. So you think I'm better than Andy Warhol, eh? Maybe I should show off some of my stuff at New York's famed Museum of Modern Art (aka MOMA)... So here we have Sir Paul McCartney's penishead paintings and next to it are my facial comparisons! ;D See, I can barely draw a circle with a compass; my natural abilities are neither drawing nor painting. Warhol was fine in his day; he was a movement, an icon, a figure, a pivot point. IMO. Not so much a Picasso. One of the Tara's looks like a high school buddy of mine, C. Covington, from years ago, so much so that if I can find some little pic of him, I'll post it briefly. The other pic, I dunno, I just dont "see Craig"---but you are right----angle and lighting are everything. |
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Post by Jai Guru Deva on Aug 13, 2005 4:26:49 GMT -5
Guinness are descendents of William the Conqueror.[/size]  
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Post by JoJo on Oct 15, 2006 17:08:44 GMT -5
Strange thing, this business of a marriage and two children. Can't seem to find anything in the reports from the time that mention "leaving behind a wife and two children". And yet.. the two names seem to be popping up all over the place. From this site, it says: G2. Julian Dominick Browne, * 1965, Md. 1990, Isabella Iglesias, d. of Cerrajas Jaime Iglesias of Argentina.OK, then in Oahu sometime in mid November of 2002, a Julian Dominick Browne wed Tanja Tiare Tilgenkamp. LINKThen, some public records searching: U.S. Public Records Index Record
about Julian D Browne
Name: Julian D Browne
Birth Date: 26 Feb 1965
Street address: *********
City: Santa Barbara
County: Santa Barbara
State: California
Zip Code: 93108
Phone Number: 805
Household Members:
Name Est. Age Birth Year
Alison J Browne 44 1962
Dorian C Browne 42 1963
Julian D Browne 41 1965 Looks like the same guy, even the brother is living with him at this point. And then another listing in Hawaii: U.S. Public Records Index Record
about Julian D Browne
Name: Julian D Browne
Birth Date: 26 Feb 1965
Street address: *********
City: Honolulu
County: Honolulu
State: Hawaii
Zip Code: 96821
Phone Number: 808
Household Members:
Name Est. Age Birth Year
Julian Browne
Julian D Browne 41 1965 I know this sounds like a strange question to pose, but does he exist on anything but paper? Yeah I know there's a picture but.. |
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Post by Jai Guru Deva on Oct 15, 2006 19:40:37 GMT -5
JoJo, both Dorian and Julian exist. The Santa Barbara record is interesting, because remember for a time Faul and Linda had a house there (mid 90's). The Julian that lives in Hawaii is 41 years old-- which is the right age for him to be the same guy. I wasn't enterily certian the Julian who wed Tanja Tiare Tilgenkamp was the same Julian Dominick Browne because I didn't see it any of the public records for a divorce and remarriage for Julian. Also, I seem to remember doing a people search and finding a "Browne" family living in Honolulu with a mom and dad, a son named Julian, and another son or daughter. Then again, how many people in this world are named "Julian Dominick Browne"? Also, it should be noted at the same time Julian married Tanja, Faul was on tour ( Driving Rain, I believe) and there was about a week break between Mexico and Japan. During that break, Heather had done an interview for a TV station in Honolulu, then they had gone to India for some R&R, before heading onto Japan. As for Dorian, I have found a photo of him. Unfortunately, it is only a thumbnail. I had contacted RexUSA before and was told that I could search for free, but I had to pay for any downloaded enlargement. For me, enlarging with image with photoshop it only came out blury--give it a try if you want. Look at Dorian really carefully though. I've got a definite opinion about what I see in comparison to Faul, but do your own comparison and see what you think. Dorian & Garech |
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Post by JoJo on Oct 15, 2006 20:21:49 GMT -5
The pic at that link of Dorian is indeed a bit small to be of use, blowing it up will do no good. (too little to work with) Time to go to the microfilm room, I can take a look at the London Times from 1966. I can't shake the feeling that somehow this wife and kids of Tara were manifested out of thin air, pictures and paper trail notwithstanding..
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