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Post by ramone on Nov 11, 2016 11:30:10 GMT -5
Possible meaning: From a corrupted Latin expression probably implying "bona duce fortuna" meaning "with good fortune as your guide"
Opie has done very well for himself - so you might have some traction there. hmmm
It's a beautiful day in the neighbourhood a......
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Post by beatlas231 on Nov 11, 2016 20:46:53 GMT -5
Possible meaning: From a corrupted Latin expression probably implying "bona duce fortuna" meaning "with good fortune as your guide" Opie has done very well for himself - so you might have some traction there. hmmm It's a beautiful day in the neighbourhood a...... Won't you be my neighbor
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Post by ramone on Nov 12, 2016 0:32:35 GMT -5
And don't worry - there won't be any Mailman Blues in the neighbourhood Buddy, Mr Mcfeely always delivers to the right coordinates.
Mcfeely: Anglicized form of Gaelic Mac Fithcheallaigh, a patronymic from Fithcheallach 'chess player'.
uh oh, circling round to that again? slippery ground perhaps - unless ya have the boots for it.
Ok, Ringo was the castle, John the bishop? or was it....
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Post by ramone on Nov 14, 2016 12:08:49 GMT -5
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Post by delysid on Nov 14, 2016 15:51:39 GMT -5
Oh hey, I didn't know the Left Wing'd media had a username on here. CNN, is that you?! Covering the more important story by diverting to Mainstream Media tactics. Alex Jones would not be impressed. LOL. Not being in America, I don't get a feed of CNN or FoxNews for that matter, especially as I don't have a TV. I do try to keep up with what's happening in Mickey Mouse Country though and heard it through the grapevine that Donald Duck is now president. Left, right, left, right, marching off to war. Also, I spotted the books and read the reviews and thought that some people here who aren't too busy listening to Alex Jones might dig the fact that a couple of, like, ACTUAL researchers have spent a few years not listening to Alex Jones and, like, writ summat worthwhile. Innit.
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Post by ramone on Nov 15, 2016 12:51:47 GMT -5
Ahh yes - Knight - Queen - Bishop - Castle (keep?)
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Post by Jai Guru Deva on Jan 31, 2017 19:35:09 GMT -5
An interesting photo of Tara Browne at age 13, and a story of his life by Nicky Haslam. There is a Haslam family connection with the Browne family tree. The Spectator: Tara BrowneAnother story about Tara Browne by Paul Howard. There are some interesting photos of Tara and his mom. There's an unusual photo of Paul McCartney, my first thought is that it's stretched, but then the hairdo is throwing me off. Maybe someone can pinpoint the "where" and "when" of the photo? Daily Mail: I Read The News Today Oh Boy...Photo of Paul and Ringo for comparison. Paul & RingoA story by radio producer Olan McGowan which features an interesting photo of Tara Browne next to a statue of Pan on the cover of Paul Howard's book "I Read The News Today, Oh Boy". RTE: Paul Howard's book
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Post by rabbitteeth on Apr 27, 2017 8:56:38 GMT -5
We cannot know what really happened, unless someone who does know tells us. That's why I love so much the posts by Apollo C Vermouth aka Neil Aspinall. Many of them can be found here: willemaus.wordpress.com/2015/07/03/apollo-c-vermouth/So in the next posts, I will quote his posts that have the word "Tara" in them.
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Post by rabbitteeth on Apr 27, 2017 9:01:39 GMT -5
POSTS BY APOLLO C VERMOUTH
Interesting choice of words, Doc. There seems to be a book titled “Shutters and Blinds,” that deals with aspects of Tara’a death. Forgot the author’s name at this time.
Seems that Tara was killed in the earlymorning hours of 12-18-66. He was traveling to visit David Vaughn, who was doing some painting on the front of Tara’s Kings Road shop Dandy Fashions.
He smashed his Lotus Elan into the rear of a parked van while swerving to avoid a Volkswagon that pulled out in his path in Redcliffe Gardens in Earls Court.
From what I can glean, he was with a female friend who escaped the accident with minor injuries. Tara was dead at the scene.
As far as “Venus and Mars” are concerned, there are several differing stories. Venus is the god of peace, Mars the god of war. They were lovers, such as Hyacinthus and Apollo were lovers to a different degree.
Didn’t really find anything beyond that after a cursory search.
Happy Mother’s Day!
Apollo
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Some points to ponder…
WHAT was the “relationship” between Paul and Tara?
What effect did Tara’s passing have on “Paul?”
What exactly is he saying in the song “Venus and Mars”?
Remember, by the time of MMT, all the players had been set into motion. The clues on “Sgt. Pepper” tell the story.
There was “no going back” from that event. (despite later pleas to reconsider) Everything that happened beyond that point had to follow script.
“Two are flying, two are not.”
Apollo ---
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Post by rabbitteeth on Apr 27, 2017 9:07:26 GMT -5
POSTS BY APOLLO C VERMOUTH
Interesting question, my good doctor.
I can only speculate as to the dubious inclusion of the Hyacinth plant on the cover.
I suspect it refers to the tragic death of Tara Browne. Both he and Paul were very close, and keeping with the mythology would seem to make sense.
And, the choice of Paul to assume the name of “Apollo” later in life only serves to cement the theory.
Yet, the flowers spell out the word “Beatles,” and the rumors of Paul’s death from head wounds suffered in a car accident puts a very unusual twistto the mix.
Both scenarios would seem to follow suit.
Consider this for a moment…
Tara Browne was the “heir” to the Guiness fortune.He was killed at a young age in a car accident.
“You were in a car crash, and you lost your hair.
”Ever notice that the words “hair” and “heir” can sound somewhat similar?
Just a silly tid-bit I pulled from my arse. Though it makes me wonder.
“You were in a car crash, and you lost your heir.”
Makes sense to me, if looked at in that manner.
Apollo
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Great questions, Darkhorse!
Like I said, I simply was playing around with the premise.
But, to answer your query, if Paul and Tara were both killed in seperate accidents, and the “Paul” from Sgt. Pepper was not who he seemed, then regardless of any relationship betwixt the two, the new “Paul” would have no reference to that freindship. It would fall on the other three to point it out.
From all accounts, John did not seem to be that close to Tara, citing that “A Day in the Life” was written partially about “that Guinness CHILD.” No love lost there, it appears.
You bring up some valid points.
Apollo
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Post by rabbitteeth on Apr 27, 2017 9:15:42 GMT -5
POSTS BY APOLLO C VERMOUTH
I have always felt the lines from McCartney’s, “Venus and Mars” dealt briefly with a slightly intoxicated Tara leading up to the accident.
“Red lights, green lights, strawberry wine, a good friend of mine, follows the stars, Venus and Mars are alright tonight.’
Tara was known, through his personal wealth, to be able to hang with the hip crowd of the day.“
He blew his mind out in a car, he didn’t notice that the lights had changed.”
I’m sure there are other references to him, sprinkled about Paul’s solo work.
As far as “Fara” is concerned, I see little evidence to support such a theory. Interesting concept, though.And, one that may warrant a closer look.
The whole reference to “Venus and Mars” itself may need a closer look as well.
It is semi-apparent that mythology may play a significant role in unfolding the story line.
Apollo
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What you WILL find is that there is a strong indication of a “love” interest involving Tara Browne and Paul.Paul’s choice of the name “Apollo” and the hyacinths used on Sgt. Pepper, suggest their relationship was a tad bit more than platonic.If you have not had the pleasure,do look up the myth of “Apollo and Hyacinthus. Apollo
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Post by rabbitteeth on Apr 27, 2017 9:23:40 GMT -5
POST BY APOLLO C VERMOUTH
Some of the items found on the cover tell a story as well.
Consider the use of the Hyacinth plant used to form the word “Beatles” on the cover of Sgt. Pepper.
What possible connection could be associated with a flower??
Lets take a look at the myth of it’s creation.
Hyacinthus, young son of the King of Sparta, beautiful like the very gods of Mount Olympos, was beloved by Apollo, the shooter of arrows.
The two would meet on the banks of the Eurotas River, and delight in various pastimes.
One day while the pair was trying to out do each other in a game of discus throwing, Hyacinthus trying to chase down Apollo’s last throw, was struck in the HEAD by the falling discus and killed.
Apollo, heartbroken at the loss of his friend by his own hand, and clutching the lifeless body in his arms, vowed to have him remembered for all time.
With one word from Apollo, a fragrant red flower arose from the spilled blood of his friend on the ground. On its petals you can still read the letters “Ay,” the sigh of pain that rose from Apollo’s grief stricken heart at the loss.
It seems curious that later in his carreer that McCartney would choose the name “APOLLO C. Vermouth” to produce a song for the Bozo Dog Band.
A band that earlier was to provide the only non-Beatle song for the Magical Mystery Tour film.
Apollo
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Post by rabbitteeth on Apr 27, 2017 9:27:25 GMT -5
POSTS BY APOLLO C VERMOUTH Pardon the intrusion…Seems that much has been made of Tara’s passing only through mention in part during “A Day in the Life. ”His “widowed bride” being excluded in most publications. Her name is Noreen MacSherry. She bore two sons. Tara being 21 years of age when he passed. Yet, nary a mention of the marriage in 1964. He being the son of the 4th Lord Oranmore and Browne and Oonagh Guinness, seems to beg for a polite mention on the “society page.”Apollo -------------------------- Pardon the intrusion… <snip> Tara was never married, nor had he any children. <snip> Dr. Robert, hits the nail on the head.(The wife Tara never had is named Noreen MacSherry, and the children they didn’t have are named Dorian Clifford Browne and Julian Dominick Browne, and they are inconveniently still with us.) ----------------- All the Apollo posts above coming from here: willemaus.wordpress.com/2015/07/03/apollo-c-vermouth/If you know other things that Apollo wrote about Tara, please post them.
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Post by ekauqodielak on May 17, 2019 3:02:25 GMT -5
Can anyone link to Apollo saying there were 5 Fauls on the MMT bus? or just quote him?
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Post by Jai Guru Deva on Jul 29, 2019 19:15:26 GMT -5
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Post by ekauqodielak on Jul 29, 2019 20:51:46 GMT -5
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Post by Jai Guru Deva on Feb 21, 2024 20:30:52 GMT -5
This is a short clip from a new documentary about Brian Jones (available on DVD/Blue Ray) which talks about Tara Browne being a friend of Brian's, it shows some film of Tara. youtu.be/hg6fK_HJuIY?si=wlLtw7KuYntsbebk
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