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Post by iameye on Feb 11, 2012 19:08:06 GMT -5
Whatever. At least I got the grail out of it.
I'm done.
Sorry it didn't work out. Better luck next time, I guess.
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Post by linus on Feb 13, 2012 3:09:46 GMT -5
I have mentioned it before on other threads but the reason we will probably never explain PID/PWR is that it is a MAGIC SPELL.The more you try to explain it the less sense it makes.The more you go into it the more perplexing it becomes.It is very very powerful magic,that is why it is so addictive.I get to a certain point and then say"it is darn good hillbilly magic",lol. So we're Billy Shears! We're all Billy Shears... I get it now. We are all hillbillies being mesmerized by the magic of Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. Is that what you're a-tryin' to say?
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Post by hotman637 on Feb 13, 2012 13:25:30 GMT -5
YES!! linus,that is exactly what I am saying! The Beatles,Sgt.Pepper and PID is a very powerful magic spell.We are ALL hillbillies including Faul.So we should(IMO) make our own hillbilly magic and let Faul(or whoever)try to figure it out,lol.
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Post by 65if2007 on Feb 13, 2012 13:57:13 GMT -5
Whatever. At least I got the grail out of it. I'm done. Sorry it didn't work out. Better luck next time, I guess. A GRAIL? You got a GRAIL out of it? You're lucky. All I ever got out of it was a stupid briefcase containing a weird video and other worthless junk.
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Post by linus on Feb 13, 2012 15:00:23 GMT -5
YES!! linus,that is exactly what I am saying! The Beatles,Sgt.Pepper and PID is a very powerful magic spell.We are ALL hillbillies including Faul.So we should(IMO) make our own hillbilly magic and let Faul(or whoever)try to figure it out,lol. See how we fly like Lucy in the sky -
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Post by Jai Guru Deva on Feb 13, 2012 16:20:49 GMT -5
Consider that a person can claim himself to be the King of France or the Prince of Persia, but his personality does not change (regardless of the persona he portrays). As the old saying goes, "a leopard doesn't change his spots" or "a zebra doesn't change his stripes."
I have observed that from 1967 onward "Paul" was interested in things that we find Tara Browne was also interested in like fashion, drugs, and art. He also hung around with the same small group of friends which included the Rolling Stones, Robert Frasier, Marianne Faithfull, Anita Pallenberg, and members of the young aristocracy.
As far as magic, now we get into an area which I haven't waded in too deeply in relation to the Browne family, but perhaps if we are to go down that road the place to start is the double-headed eagle on the family crest...
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Post by beacon on Feb 14, 2012 11:12:22 GMT -5
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Post by Silversong on Feb 14, 2012 14:14:50 GMT -5
To me the difference between a recipe and magic is a recipe is measurable,magic is not.If PID was measurable we would have figured it out years ago and these websites would be dead.Therefore PID is amagic spell. Or just a lie, fraud, con to confuse people. I don't think people who mistakenly believe a con to always have been put under a magic spell. They have been convinced in some way or other to believe it. ======= If it's a lie, we can choose whether we're convinced or not, but if it's a magic spell, wouldn't everyone be under it?
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Post by hotman637 on Feb 14, 2012 20:56:35 GMT -5
The difference between a lie or a con and a spell is mostly a question of degree.An example of a big lie is Pearl Harbour.Even most history books admit that the US new about the attack before it happened and let it take place anyway.There is not a huge disagreement over what happened.Paul is dead is different in that the further you get into it the more confusing it becomes.When I first rediscovered PID on TKIN there was one Paul and one Faul and Faul took over in 1966.NOW people have posts saying that there are up to 10 Pauls/Fauls and JPM did not even exist! Or he was replaced in 1964,or was it 1965 or Faul was around in 1964 just no one noticed.And it looks like the pictures/slash videos have changed so Faul looks like Paul and visa versa and of course there is double back faulse Paul.I am NOT SAYING that those theories are wrong it is just that there no way to tell because we are dealing with MAGIC.That to me shows they use powerful magic,it sucks people in,including me with no end in sight and no solution because magic CANNOT be explained.
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Post by Silversong on Feb 14, 2012 21:55:55 GMT -5
Doctoring pictures and videos isn't magic, it's technology. They would have us under a 'delusion' that way, but not a 'spell', imo.
Not everything can be doctored, though, and I continue to ask why they would make them look so different instead of identical, whether it's photo tampering, surgery, or whatever they're doing.
I remember back in the early 60s, I was seeing pictures of the Beatles in fan mags showing a very short, small Paul, but when they came to America in 1964, Paul was the same size as John or taller, and they were fully-grown adults. If he got taller in 1964 and 1965, then he got shorter again in early 1966. Did they start this doctoring and tampering back then? What about people who saw them in person, as a school friend of mine did twice back then? It appears that the short Paul/s never came to North America.
Are any of them even "real", is my question. Are they robotoids, holograms? The photo tampering is MUCH more bizarre than just that they look different, and started WAY before PID. They appear to have fake facial features in many instances in vintage photos.
One of the biggest questions I still have regarding the "just one set of four Beatles" issue is how could just one set have carried off their itinerary and not needed to be in a rest home the first year? This was a huge money-making scam, an enormous commercial fraud, and it took multiple sets to pull it off.
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Post by hotman637 on Feb 14, 2012 22:34:03 GMT -5
Sherlock Holmes said:"when you have eliminated the impossible,whatever remains,however improbable,MUST BE THE TRUTH! Delusion or tampering or multiple Pauls DO NOT ACCOUNT for PID!!When you have eliminateed those things,what is left?MAGIC!
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Post by Silversong on Feb 14, 2012 23:16:52 GMT -5
Those things don't need to account for PID, it needs to account for itself, and cannot, but the multiples theory can and does.
--If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed; if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed. -- Mark Twain
ADDED: Were there multiple Beatles all along? John is quoted in the book “The Lennon Prophecy” as having said he didn’t care if it took con and deception, he was going to be rich and famous. How could the same four people become that famous and record that many hit records, and do that much traveling in one year? In 3 years?
The plot of the animated film “Yellow Submarine” is about two Beatles groups where one is trying to find the other hidden away under the sea of “Pepperland”. And they all "live in a yellow submarine" (drugs/ illusion?), and the depiction of that is Paul giving the 666 sign, and John giving the devil's horn sign.
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Post by B on Feb 15, 2012 2:52:53 GMT -5
Silversong wrote: The plot of the animated film “Yellow Submarine” is about two Beatles groups where one is trying to find the other hidden away under the sea of “Pepperland”.Or, one might see it as, the group traveling THROUGH TIME into the future, and then returning from the future, which would explain why they pass themselves (going and coming). Is that not what the album covers above suggest? Young Beatles, before a trip into the future, but Old Beatles after that trip into the future. (All in the course of "7 years".) Watch particularly starting at 6:41Beatles YELLOW SUBMARINE Animation pt 3, George., All together now; its time for time www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqYnGXDxvbkThe Arms of Sir George Martin, Kt., C.B.E. shows two small beetles, but one large beetle. [url=http://invanddis.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Clues&action=display&thread=4018 ]George Maritn's coat of arms was discussed in this thread.[/url] There may have been multiple players, but "the story" is that they went into the future, and came back, telling us of what was coming: an attempt by some to create a "blue meanie" police state, etc. And who saved "Pepperland" from that fate? They did! Their songs about Love Love Love inspired the people to prevent it. It's Magick!
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Post by beacon on Feb 15, 2012 4:58:06 GMT -5
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Post by seasaltcaramel on Feb 15, 2012 9:37:28 GMT -5
Doctoring pictures and videos isn't magic, it's technology. They would have us under a 'delusion' that way, but not a 'spell', imo. Not everything can be doctored, though, and I continue to ask why they would make them look so different instead of identical, whether it's photo tampering, surgery, or whatever they're doing. I remember back in the early 60s, I was seeing pictures of the Beatles in fan mags showing a very short, small Paul, but when they came to America in 1964, Paul was the same size as John or taller, and they were fully-grown adults. If he got taller in 1964 and 1965, then he got shorter again in early 1966. Did they start this doctoring and tampering back then? What about people who saw them in person, as a school friend of mine did twice back then? It appears that the short Paul/s never came to North America. Are any of them even "real", is my question. Are they robotoids, holograms? The photo tampering is MUCH more bizarre than just that they look different, and started WAY before PID. They appear to have fake facial features in many instances in vintage photos. One of the biggest questions I still have regarding the "just one set of four Beatles" issue is how could just one set have carried off their itinerary and not needed to be in a rest home the first year? This was a huge money-making scam, an enormous commercial fraud, and it took multiple sets to pull it off. I highly suggest studying William Burroughs and tell me doctoring photos isn't magic. Film, according to the Masai, captures the recorded persons soul. Or a part. By doctoring the film or image you doctor their soul. Or a part. The same is true of what goes into the mind. You can alter thoughts on many levels using the usual mediums of radio-television-movies-music. All of these exist in the "prerecorded" universe. Brion Gysin The one Beatles band in pepperland idea is inspiring. It seems we have located the mainline. The looking glass world.
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Post by seasaltcaramel on Feb 15, 2012 9:43:50 GMT -5
The Beatles never existed. The small Paul's never caramel to north America. Its too crazy not to be true. What a great scheme. Its more true thaan reality. Even if it isn't true its true. It might be delusional thinking, but its truth. The Beatles were created as part of the same plot - operation crusty nostalgia. Back when things were real.. back when we got you by the balls...
What a hopeless reality.
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Post by Silversong on Feb 15, 2012 14:34:05 GMT -5
Even if it's a combination of magic and delusion, it comes out the same. Even if it's one or the other only, it comes out the same. Even if this whole entire world and universe is a hologram and all of us don't exist. Maybe we're just projected onto someone's computer screen in the cosmos. Maybe it's all a dream. "It's magic, you know. Never believe it's not so". "I put a spell on you". "That old black magic has us in its spell". Through technology, and through cons and frauds (delusion), they have perpetrated all of it onto us, and we believed it.
What it comes out the same as is just what you said, seasaltcaramel. One set of 4 Beatles did not perform in every country, sing every song live or on record, etc., etc., et al. That's what needs to be learned, understood and acknowledged. Then we break the 'spell', or their hold on us, their control over us. It's both real and fictitious at the same time.
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Post by Silversong on Feb 15, 2012 14:52:01 GMT -5
What a master plan they had with not bringing any of the small Pauls to America. I agree with what someone said about this on another forum; that we had grown up on the big male movie hunks, so we weren't going to go for a little guy like small Paul.
Bring a tall Paul (Annette Funicello song, 1959) to America, convince the girls they are crazy about him to make all the American guys jealous, then turn Paul effeminate so the American guys will follow suit in order to try and attract their girlfriends back,
The Beatles were an ILLUSION, but I think it's good to keep a balance between magic and con. The truth always lies somewhere in the middle of two extremes, at least that's so in the real world where they play by the 'real' rules, but did they in this case? I don't think so.
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Post by B on Feb 15, 2012 18:49:31 GMT -5
Meet the Beatles! Annette Funicello - Tall Paul www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne2yFQPYYmUAnd... going just a little off topic.... my first reaction to seeing the Penthouse cover was that the names must spell something. And then I saw it. H.E. Bates R.E.L. MastersMasters/Bates Don't look Ethel!I know: my mind is in the gutter, but hey! There's a half naked woman on the cover! I mean, come on, it's Awbvious! Who needs spark plugs?
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Post by beacon on Feb 16, 2012 6:47:04 GMT -5
Talking of ILLUSIONS, here's Tall Paul (5'11") with Long John Baldry (6'7")
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Post by seasaltcaramel on Feb 17, 2012 7:56:23 GMT -5
a chapter in le matin des magiciens: a few years in the ABSOLUTE ELSEWHERE.
Turn off your mind, Lachman.
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Post by beacon on May 25, 2012 10:43:24 GMT -5
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Post by beacon on Jun 20, 2012 5:19:19 GMT -5
Another death to report sadly. This time it is Nicky Browne, widow of Tara. Friday, June 15, 2012 Noreen Anne Browne (c1943-2012) Noreen Anne (Nicky) Browne, who has died at Marbella, Spain, aged 69, was the widow of the Guinness heir the Hon Tara Browne (1945-66), after whose death in a car crash in 1966 the Beatles were inspired to write the song 'A Day in the Life'. She was born circa 1943 a daughter of Sean MacSherry and married Tara Browne, scion of the Barons Oranmore & Browne, in 1963. She leaves 2 sons from the marriage, Dorian (b 1963) and Julian (b 1965). Her husband's mother was Guinness heiress Oonagh, Lady Oranmore & Browne, scion of the Earls of Iveagh, &c. peeragenews.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/noreen-anne-browne-c1943-2012.html
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Post by Jai Guru Deva on Jan 29, 2013 18:12:38 GMT -5
More on Nicky Browne from the Telegraph obituary section: www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/9350160/Nicky-Browne.htmlNicky BrowneNicky Browne, who has died aged 70, was the widow of the Hon Tara Browne, heir to the Guinness fortune and archetypal golden child of the 1960s, whose death at 21 at the wheel of his car inspired the Beatles song A Day In The Life. Nicky Browne and Tara in 1966 Photo: MICHAEL COOPER6:23PM BST 22 Jun 2012 A gamine farmer’s daughter of Irish descent, she became an emblem of Swinging London, flitting amid a glamorous elite exemplified by her wealthy young husband, one of a cabal of fashionable aristocrats to court the The Rolling Stones and The Beatles. Having married Tara Browne in London in August 1963, she quickly bore him two sons. But a week before Christmas 1966 he was with killed when he drove his turquoise Lotus Elan through a red light at high speed and collided with a parked van in Redcliffe Gardens, Earl’s Court. As the Beatles sang: He blew his mind out in a car He didn’t notice that the lights had changed A crowd of people stood and stared They’d seen his face before Nobody was really sure If he was from the House of Lords. Nicky Browne was not with him on the night he died, and indeed by then was separated from her husband; Browne’s companion in the passenger seat was an 18-year-old fashion model, Suki Potier, with whom he had reportedly taken up. She escaped with minor bruises. As a result of the Brownes’ estrangement, Nicky Browne had launched a very public and painful legal battle for custody of her two young children, her adversaries being not only her husband but also his mother, Lady Oranmore and Browne, the former Oonagh Guinness, the formidable matriarch of the powerful brewing family. The case became something of a cause célèbre, and when a judge ruled that the boys should live with their grandmother, Nicky Browne suffered an emotional collapse. In the years that followed, she was further distraught that her young sons were shuttled from one school to another (some 20 in all, she recalled), and that she was allowed to see them only in the holidays. Close friends observed that both mother and sons suffered as a result. Although Oonagh Guinness made her daughter-in-law a small financial allowance, the settlement was dwarfed by the Guinness family fortune. Tara Browne had stood to inherit £1 million on his 25th birthday, and even at the age of 21 his estate exceeded £56,000, a sum which would have made him a millionaire today. Nowhere was the gilded Guinness lifestyle more in evidence than at Luggala, the Gothic family seat in the Wicklow Mountains. There, in the spring before Tara died, Nicky Browne had been at her husband’s side at his lavish and — so it was said — acid-laced 21st birthday party. Two private jets flew the 200 or so guests to Ireland, including John Paul Getty, Mick Jagger, Brian Jones, his then girlfriend Anita Pallenberg, and Paul McCartney. At the inquest into his death, Browne was described as a man of “independent means”, but his widow was not a beneficiary in his will. When John Lennon chanced to read a newspaper account of the coroner’s proceedings, he immortalised Browne as “a lucky man who made the grade” in A Day In The Life, the closing track of the Beatles’ album Sergeant Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band (1967). She was born Noreen Anne MacSherry in the autumn of 1941 near Yeovil, Somerset. The eldest of three children, Noreen ran away to London as a teenager in search of a more exciting life. After being sacked from her first job, at the Bank of England, when she got in a muddle over exchange rates, she worked as an artist’s assistant, making canvases and keeping the studio clean. In late 1962, when she was 19, mutual friends introduced her to Tara Browne at Battersea funfair. It was a coup de foudre. He was one of the most eligible bachelors in London, and they married at Islington register office the following summer. Later Nicky Browne told reporters that her mother-in-law took against her from the first, suggesting that Tara had married beneath his station. Furthermore, Oonagh Guinness believed that the free-spirited farmer’s daughter had deliberately stopped taking the newly-available Pill in order to get pregnant and ensnare her son, who at 17 was himself a ward of court following the break-up of Oonagh’s second marriage. Charming, witty and attractive — a “hippie-babe par excellence”, according to one admirer — Nicky soon established herself as an exotic butterfly on the London scene. For a country girl, she had an unexpectedly worldly air, socially at ease at a time when old class barriers were breaking down. Her husband, on the other hand, was almost impossibly precocious, having hobnobbed in Paris with the likes of Cocteau, Dali and Beckett before moving to London. But while Tara Browne’s money and aristocratic background earned him a raffish reputation , Nicky — always unmaterialistic — lavished as much attention on her two young sons as on the rock stars of the day whom she helped entertain at their mews house in Eaton Row, Belgravia. “Musicians were interested in having a place to hang out where there were no fans bothering them,” she told the author Paul Howard, Tara Browne’s biographer. “We had a good sound system, so our flat became a place where they could come around and smoke dope. It became another club. One place would finish and everyone would say: 'Where can we go now? Tara’s.” Paul McCartney told interviewers that he took LSD for the first time with Tara Browne, and Marianne Faithfull has asserted that Browne “was on acid” the night he died — though the coroner found no traces of drink or drugs in his bloodstream. Nicky herself seemed to be no more than a casual smoker of pot. Tara included Nicky in some of his business deals, dabbling in some of the fashionable boutiques then appearing in Carnaby Street and the King’s Road. He was one of the financial backers for Sibylla’s, advertised as London’s first classic discotheque, the most technologically advanced in Britain, which opened in June 1966. At the launch party, the glittering guest list that included all four Beatles, three of the Stones, David Bailey, Michael Caine and Mary Quant, was headed by “the Hon Tara Browne and Nicky”. But the venture turned out to be jinxed. The club’s co-owner, Kevin MacDonald, threw himself off a roof just weeks before Tara Browne’s own death. Nicky blamed pressure from her mother-in-law for the eventual breakdown of her marriage; matters deteriorated still further when Oonagh Guinness began her custody battle for the children. When Nicky lost the case a few weeks after Tara’s death, she moved to southern Spain, deciding it would be cheaper to settle there than to remain, comparatively impoverished, in London. Before he died, Tara Browne and Nicky had bought a 400-year old whitewashed house in Marbella, and had been among the first to spot its potential as a fashionable resort. In Spain Nicky planned to convert the house into an exclusive, expensive boutique, but decided instead to pursue a brief career as an actress. In 1970 she appeared in a revival of the musical Hair in Tel-Aviv, directed by Oliver Tobias, with whom she claimed she had a relationship. Latterly she lived in a farmhouse in the small mountain village of Benahavis, near Marbella. Her partner of 26 years, Robbie Oliver, died last year. Her two sons survive her. Nicky Browne, born 1941, died June 11 2012 ____________________________________________________ In other interesting finds... Photos of Garech Brown in 1959-- without the beard. irishphotoarchive.photoshelter.com/gallery/1959-a-29-02-Garech-Browne-and-Leo-Rowsome/G0000qQgJxmeBSnU/C0000yyruSzjjxTkA small collection of photos of Dominick Browne (Tara's dad), some you've already seen. Take note the dress of royal guardsman.www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/person/mp60671/dominick-geoffrey-edward-browne-4th-baron-oranmore-and-browne?search=sas&sText=Dominick+BrowneAnother interesting find, possibly related Faul's project "Standing Stone" (beyond the stones themselves)...A petition to the government of Ireland for the protection of megalithic monuments circa 2000. At the top of the list is Garech Browne's name (the Hon. Garech a Brún) www.global-vision.org/astroarchaeology/archive/context/appeal.html"Standing Stone" was released in September 1997. www.paulmccartney.com/albums/10188-standing-stone
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Post by beacon on Jun 13, 2013 10:12:54 GMT -5
Tara Browne's car for sale For those PIDers far wealthier than I may I present an opportunity to obtain a magnificent piece of sixties memorabilia. AC 289 MK III Cobra 1965 for saleI am delighted to see that the auction blurb actually mentions The Sgt. Pepper Code!! Shame they clearly haven't read it because this is not what I propose at all. In a book known as The Sgt Pepper Code there is a theory that Tara Browne actually replaced Paul McCartney and indeed the 1971 recorded solo album Thrillington ( a nom de plume of McCartney) was said in the sleeve notes to be the work of Percy Thrillington – an Irish socialite who left his wife and two sons. An identical story to Tara Browne... Prior to the accident in the Lotus the AC Cobra had been placed on display as Art on Robert Frazers Gallery on Duke Street in St James’, whereupon the car was removed and on the instructions of Lord Sligo was painted black and sold. Great car, fantastic runner, low mileage, one, not so careful, owner!
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