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Post by beacon on Jun 21, 2013 5:39:58 GMT -5
Seems friend Tara's car is kicking up quite a storm in the old classic car world... Before he could drive the Cobra, Tara Browne died in a tragic car accident. The AC Cobra was then removed from the Gallery, painted black, and sold. After having been in a private collection for more than forty years, it will be offered by Coys at their auction at Blenheim Palace on June 29. Too bad the AC doesn't have its psychedelic coat anymore. Now to bring it back to its sixties glory, would probably be the first psychedelic restoration. linkOf course being ever the pedant I would argue the validity of the claim that he died before he could drive it!  I wonder whose private collection it may have been dwelling in all these years? Wonder if Sir Paul had it is a souvenir?  I saw the photograph
He blew his mind out in a car
He didn't notice that the lights had changed
A crowd of people stood and stared
They'd seen his face before
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Post by linus on Jun 23, 2013 3:33:52 GMT -5
Well, couldn't find anything in January either, must be some kind of editorial decision. The Times strikes me as a rather buttoned down stuffy paper, perhaps a more tabloid type paper had more information. (don't think the library I use has any other English papers) But I went back to December and found this tiny entry in the obituary section:  |
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Post by superman on Jun 23, 2013 6:32:39 GMT -5
Nobody was really sure if she was from the House of Lord
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2013 8:15:16 GMT -5
" It's supposed to say LORD, but the song actually seems to say "Nobody was really sure if he was from the house of PAUL" Into this House we're born.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2013 8:29:31 GMT -5
You really wanna see me?   Immaculate Conception |
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Post by dolphin on Jun 25, 2013 14:12:54 GMT -5
Ptera Tara  Terra Tara  Ptera/Terra  |
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Post by beacon on Jun 26, 2013 9:42:16 GMT -5
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Post by Jai Guru Deva on Aug 7, 2013 20:09:26 GMT -5
Another photo of Tara Browne. (I'm not entirely certain who the fellow sitting next to him is, or the little boy). |
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Post by beacon on Aug 8, 2013 3:03:41 GMT -5
Another photo of Tara Browne. (I'm not entirely certain who the fellow sitting next to him is, or the little boy).Brian Jones? |
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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Aug 8, 2013 13:24:07 GMT -5
Another photo of Tara Browne. (I'm not entirely certain who the fellow sitting next to him is, or the little boy).Brian Jones? Yeah, it's Brian. |
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Post by cherilyn7 on Aug 10, 2013 10:36:04 GMT -5
Excellent work; however, it is like trying to make the glass slipper fit: it doesn't. The "mod" guy on the front of the album "Oldies but Goldies" was, in fact, meant to represent Tara Browne.
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Post by beacon on Aug 21, 2013 4:55:18 GMT -5
Another interesting discovery. This blog article Who is Spanish Tony Sanchez? seems to imply that Sybillas nightclub, which was jointly owned by Tara Browne, Kevin MacDonald and George Harrison, had a mob connection and that when the mob wanted to take it over they arranged for MacDonald to be thrown off a roof and that Paul McCartney lured Tara into the high speed car crash that would kill him! |
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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Aug 21, 2013 5:44:19 GMT -5
Another interesting discovery. This blog article Who is Spanish Tony Sanchez? seems to imply that Sybillas nightclub, which was jointly owned by Tara Browne, Kevin MacDonald and George Harrison, had a mob connection and that when the mob wanted to take it over they arranged for MacDonald to be thrown off a roof and that Paul McCartney lured Tara into the high speed car crash that would kill him! Well, MacDonald's death seemed to me when discovering it, highly suspicious. That MacDonald and Browne both died within months of eachother at very young ages already tells you something is very wrong. Because statistically and/or the laws of probability say it's wrong. I checked his death records for any mention of foul play, but very little was yielded from that search. It seems completely suspect to me that a 29 year old man, who has a Beatle investing in his club and a Guiness heir as a partner, would suddenly feel despondent when his club is taking off and celebrity notables are all hanging around. Sybillas was happening. No reason to go jumping off a roof in a suicide bid, unless money was getting out of hand or it was too much for him to take. But it had only been open 4 months by the time he died! I could see if it was open a year or two, and things were spiraling out of control, but come on. Both owners of this club dead within months of one another? |
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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Aug 21, 2013 6:09:24 GMT -5
From the article link provided:
This was known as Kevin MacDonald Associates Ltd, and I believe someone here provided a list of who the Associates were. It would be great if they could do that again, as is usual my problem, I forget to bookmark or take down mini-notes every occasion.
I have question with this motive and The Krays gaining access to Harrison through money. The Krays were incredibly powerful during this period in 60's Britain. Very powerful. They had ties to the government. They had better connections than The Beatles. Would having George Harrison as a partner in KMA really be advantageous? It would seem a better route to blackmail Epstein with his homosexuality and gambling debts, one of the Krays being homosexual themselves. I do believe MacDonald was thrown from a roof, and not by his own choice. And I do believe Tara Browne's death has reason to believe it was not all cut and dry as promoted.
Where is the European Crime Lord that McCartney was under the protection of. I see no name, or previous mention of THE European crime lord. I see mention of the Krays. Maybe it's just a mistake in wording. How did McCartney come under the protection of this person? Personally, I'd go back to Robert Fraser, because I believe that person was a very shady character. And Yoko Ono's arrival in the UK, and her relationship to McCarthy informant Harvey Matusow should be brought into question. Part of this article about Tony Sanchez makes sense, in a story way. But most of it doesn't because it is speculation. It provides a motive, but nothing to back it up with. The Bahamas comes to mind in these instances. And something else I've written about at my blog, the relationship between Paul McCartney and Allen Klein. Is it all that it seems? Because McCartney keeps turning up absent whenever something pivitol in management seems to occur. Like the death of Epstein. Or Klein's bid to take over The Beatles back in June 1966, and the article that appeared in November 1966 saying he was almost successful in gaining two of The Beatles. But again, Epstein never signed the contract with the Beatles. They could walk at any time without legal repercussions. No buy out was needed. They could walk and be represented by anyone else if they wanted to.
I would expect McCartney to be grief stricken as well concerning Epstein's death, but he's back to business at hand. Much like when he didn't attend his father's funeral. Maybe he has a hard time with death. Maybe his mother's death affected the way he handles it. It also affects his memory because he can't remember when he first got a guitar, and I think anyone who is a musician would know exactly when they got their first instrument. If not the day, then at least the year, or the age they were at. He can't. I find that very dubious.
I don't believe Harrison was the sole surviving investor. You had "the Associates". Harrison owned only 10% of Sybillas. There's 90 remaining. Browne as a Guiness heir I imagine could front up some money to build a club, and I do not know MacDonald's background, but if he knew the likes of Browne, then I'd say his background was somewhat affluent, or he worked hard to go up the class ladder.
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Post by beacon on Aug 21, 2013 6:33:30 GMT -5
I thought this might pique your interest!
I am inclined to agree that it seems unlikely to have been a ruse to get to Harrison per se, but, as a means of gaining control of the Beatles plc I think is possible.
I am sure I have read somewhere, it may have been something you wrote or in Laurie O'Leary's book, that Sybilla's was right next door to a known mob hangout which might explain their desire to obtain Sybilla's, but, it seems that the clientele came because of the owners, rather than the location, and it's Beatle association so killing off said owners would not guarantee a succesful club.
Thought it was an interesting association to McCartney though and I always pay attention when names like Frasers and Spanish Tony's get chucked into the mix. I believe, though it is not clear, that the blog author is asserting that the connection with the European crime lord dates back to the Hamburg era and one of the club owners that the Beatles performed for.
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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Aug 21, 2013 6:49:04 GMT -5
Lest we not forget Selteab
Seltaeb was a company set up in 1963, by Nicky Byrne (né Douglas Anthony Nicholas Byrne) to exclusively look after merchandising interests on behalf of Brian Epstein, who managed NEMS Enterprises and The Beatles: John Lennon, Paul McCartney, George Harrison, and Ringo Starr.
When this brought in huge money, Epstein little realising how much it was earning until it was too late when he acquired more percentage in its profits, you know organised crime got involved in those takings. When you're manufacturing toys, merchandise, clothing, etc, to produce Beatles items for kids, you are coming into direct contact with people like this. Those who own garment producing factories, or ... you're getting straight into MobLand there. Especially in the USA, especially when it's turning huge profits. Maybe that's why the Bahamas. Where Hendrix's manager (and I believe Hendrix was murdered) was laundering money to. Money Hendrix earned.
And to believe Allen Klein did not have mob ties would be ludicrous. Someone, or some people in the Beatles organisation were mob deep. Someone or some people were compromised I believe. Cuz that's how a lifetime of silence and servitude is accomplished. You compromise. Maybe why Joe Meek shot himself and his landlady when a teenage boy was found in a briefcase, severed in pieces after being brutally raped. Why would Meek opt out AND take his landlady with him a few weeks after this incident occurred. I'm still questioning the anonymous comment left at a blog about The Krays referencing Richard Asher providing drugs to test out on runaways to the cops. That was a pretty inflammatory claim to make, shame it was anonymous. But it provided the flip side to the "swinging London scene" that everyone wants so wholeheartedly to believe. Because it's nice. And fits in with the summer of love. I'm sorry, but this world is not nice. Nice things happen in it, but there's a lot of horrible things that occur in it. The death of that boy in the briefcase was one of them. And any claims that Jimmy Savile repeatedly abused teenage girls, or Wilfrid Brambell boys, and so on, and so on. This is not a nice world. Maybe why Beatles lawyer David Jacobs was found hanging. Again you want to look to the Krays. Which makes me wonder why they would think Harrison as an investment partner was a smart way in. It makes no sense. If criminals want something, they take it. They have to make it look legit yes, but they'd be far better strongarming NEMS if they wanted control of The Beatles. Gaining access through the business, rather than a small club in trendy London.
Driberg seems well connected to McCartney as well. Driberg was Crowley's poster boy for next in line to be 666. Driberg anonymously contributed to Private Eye, of which Jane Asher is a shareholder. Driberg's name is right alongside that of McCartney in the legalisation of marijuana in 1967. (I personally have nothing against its legalisation, unlike McCartney today. And you think he would after all the research into its benefits in aiding cancer patients. But he's not. So much for that idealism of youth.)
Well it's Faithfull insisting that Browne was on LSD when he crashed. And yes it's very hard to trace LSD in the bloodstream or system, but the thing was, they found nothing else in his system whatsoever. No alcohol, no drugs, nothing. His quick reaction saved the life of his passenger. Can a person on LSD still "function"? When its creator (Albert Hofmann)took what he thought a safe amount, and attempted to ride his bicycle home well ... he made it, but totally unconscious of the journey itself. His description of the bike ride, and his assistant's were two different tales. So yes you can do things like drive a vehicle, but your interpretation of that driving is going to be very skewed. Would Browne be able to swerve in time to save the life of his passenger? Maybe. Is Faithfull a reliable source to say what Browne had ingested before his death. I would say No. She's shady, as shady as Anita Pallenberg, if not moreso.
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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Aug 21, 2013 7:07:43 GMT -5
I thought this might pique your interest! I am inclined to agree that it seems unlikely to have been a ruse to get to Harrison per se, but, as a means of gaining control of the Beatles plc I think is possible. I am sure I have read somewhere, it may have been something you wrote or in Laurie O'Leary's book, that Sybilla's was right next door to a known mob hangout which might explain their desire to obtain Sybilla's, but, it seems that the clientele came because of the owners, rather than the location, and it's Beatle association so killing off said owners would not guarantee a succesful club. Thought it was an interesting association to McCartney though and I always pay attention when names like Frasers and Spanish Tony's get chucked into the mix. I believe, though it is not clear, that the blog author is asserting that the connection with the European crime lord dates back to the Hamburg era and one of the club owners that the Beatles performed for. Like you, I believe everything's possible. Gaining access to The Beatles via Harrison and Sybillas, yes I can buy that. It's a sneaky way to do it, when the owners end up dead within months of eachother it calls some attention to it, if not a lot. The death of MacDonald is of course outshined by the death of Browne. Kevin's is the underrated death, but the one that points clearly at some serious issues with how he died. Browne's death is more publicised and documented, but its harder going proving that it was suspicious. It's MacDonald's death that's going to lead you into the underworld. And if The Beatles and organised crime has something to do with PID. Which I do think it does. Organised crime, the Occult, and the Intelligence agencies, both side of the Atlantic. The Mighty Three. That McCartney somehow remains unscathed decades after these times, and even comes out of it with a "Sir", tells me there's all the reason to believe he was or has been compromised. And others started paying the price for that. And maybe that involvement with the Indica crowd (with a guy whose dad just happens to once have been a military attache in Moscow at the tale end of WWII, and another guy whose dad may have been doing experiments in Hypnosis, quits his day job and lifetime career all of a sudden one day in 1964, may have been providing drugs to law enforcement to test out on runaway street kids, and commits suicide sometime in 1969, soon after his daughter has split up with this guy from a very famous band, and of course the wonderful Robert Fraser, who is as shady as anything.) It may implicate The Beatles far more than people would like when it comes to Charles Manson, who has that same Mighty Three dancing all around him before and after the murders, to which he didn't do. |
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Post by beacon on Aug 21, 2013 7:46:53 GMT -5
Interesting points all that you make.
Driberg, in particular, was a very interesting character. As well as the points you make he was also a British spy, like Crowley, with connections to the very shady Maxwell Knight of MI5 and the inspiration for M from the James Bond film.
Regarding Tara Browne's car crash. I always considered it strange that Suki Potier, apparently, walked away unharmed, especially when the driver, regardless of his sobriety or drug intake, would naturally turn the car away from themselves and, therefore, into their passenger. It is basic human instinct and, if true, would require a considerable effort. Perhaps he wasn't driving but his corpse was placed behind the wheel in an effort to fool the authorities.
Putting together the truth from all these stories is nigh impossible, especially given the vast number of deaths since. Marianne Faithfull is, as you suggest, far from reliable. Apart from her assertions about Tara Browne it is she that claims to have run into the infamous Acid-King of Redlands, David Schneiderman, years later in LA. She also comes from an extremely blue-blooded background and is probably in this up to her eyeballs.
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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Aug 21, 2013 8:11:39 GMT -5
Interesting points all that you make. Driberg, in particular, was a very interesting character. As well as the points you make he was also a British spy, like Crowley, with connections to the very shady Maxwell Knight of MI5 and the inspiration for M from the James Bond film. Regarding Tara Browne's car crash. I always considered it strange that Suki Potier, apparently, walked away unharmed, especially when the driver, regardless of his sobriety or drug intake, would naturally turn the car away from themselves and, therefore, into their passenger. It is basic human instinct and, if true, would require a considerable effort. Perhaps he wasn't driving but his corpse was placed behind the wheel in an effort to fool the authorities. Putting together the truth from all these stories is nigh impossible, especially given the vast number of deaths since. Marianne Faithfull is, as you suggest, far from reliable. Apart from her assertions about Tara Browne it is she that claims to have run into the infamous Acid-King of Redlands, David Schneiderman, years later in LA. She also comes from an extremely blue-blooded background and is probably in this up to her eyeballs. I guess it depends on how he hit that parked, stationery vehicle. Did he hit it driver's side (Brit style, on the right) or passenger side, on the left. Which way down the road was he heading. Let's look at his car.  Impact is on the right. The interior of the car has totally been demolished, the steering wheel is actually outside of the car. Strange thing I find though is ... his front wheels are perfectly intact. The hood of the car is popped open, the right front of the car appears to have heavy damage, but that front wheel looks good to go. |
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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Aug 21, 2013 8:22:37 GMT -5
Here's the front view  The front bumper is in shreds, the right headlight is pushed down from impact, the bonnet is popped open. The whole right side of the car is demolished, and as said, the steering wheel is completely OUTSIDE of the car. How hard did he hit this parked van. And where. The impact to the front of the vehicle says he may have hit it head on, resulting in the demolition of that front bumper. The front, not the side. The side and that front wheel remain intact and good to go. So did the car hit head on, and he tried to swerve at the last minute, resulting in the car slamming back into the van at the next stage, resulting in the interior of the car becoming demolished and rendered unusable? If it slammed into the van in such a way, you would think that whole side of the car would be demolished, not only the interior. So how did the interior of the car get so wrecked, but the outside of the car remain intact in particular places. If the wheel is hanging out of the car, well, how did it get there. And why is that section of the car below the driver's position, still good? Should not that whole side of the car look like the interior and that damage to the front bumper? It's all level and subject to that collision. It's not like under the driver's seat the vehicle's design swoops in underneath the car. It's level. So why is the driver's side half in wreckage, half superb? And why is that front wheel still intact, but the steering wheel hanging out of the car? Why did Suki survive if the head on collision suggested by the front bumper says both passenger and driver would not come out unscathed from this accident. It looks head on from the front damage, at least on the right hand side. She's not going to walk out of a collision like that. But then the interior damage to the car says no one would get out of it alive. |
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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Aug 21, 2013 8:35:22 GMT -5
If you ask me, the neglect to certain portions of the car, and the over demolition to other parts of the car suggests someone went at it with a couple tools of destruction, but forgot to make the job look complete, or even think about taking out that front wheel. They wrecked the interior, ripping out that steering wheel, but left the whole side of that car in good shape. There should be a dent or some serious damage to that whole side of the Lotus making that interior looking as devastated as it does. And why leave a portion of the windscreen intact on Suki's side? The damage to the interior, and even the roof of the car says there ain't going to be a windscreen left to see, so why that front view gives us a portion of windscreen left on the car is ....  ? Unless that's the passenger side window that we're seeing, still rolled up. So that suggests that side of the car, Suki's side, has no damage whatsoever to it if the passenger window is still up and ready to roll. Which makes you wonder where Tara's driver's side window is, if that portion of the car is still intact, but the interior is all shot to hell. They should have taken out that front wheel. In the front view, there's a long rip that goes from the headlight, right over the centre of the right front wheel. What caused that. It suggests a dragging of metal against metal. It's a parked van, so what is on the side of this van that has ripped against Tara's Lotus. If it's not a ripping, then it's cracking of the vehicle's body, which would come from the impact of the car into the van from the front, as the bumper tells you happened. The car hit from the front into the van, but did no damage to the front wheel or that portion of the car, but somehow rips out the steering wheel from inside the car, and leaves the inside like someone took a wrecking ball to it.  |
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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Aug 21, 2013 8:52:53 GMT -5
Meaning to say, if Suki's passenger window is still rolled up, which brings into question one or two things.
A) Both of them had their windows rolled up, which would be the case in December weather.
B) Why is her window still intact judging from that collision and its damage to the front of the car, and to the interior.
We obviously are not going to see tara's driver side window anywhere, because that part of the car is all mashed up. The steering wheel hanging out of the car says well, the steering wheel probably took out his window! But at the same time there is no impact on that side of the car telling you why the door is missing, why the interior of the car is smashed to hell, and why that steering wheel is hanging outside of the car the way it is. And no reason why that front wheel doesn't even have a hubcap loose, or the tire itself seems full of air and ready to roll if you push that car down the street. And why the headlight is all scrunched down, and that rip/crack appears in the frame of the vehicle, if this was not a head on collision and a sideswipe. Why is the headlight still intact then? I mean, yes, it could survive the impact being set back in the frame as it is, but the crack/rip right behind it says that headlight should be smashed, no? The impact says damage occurred to the front and the side, so why is there still a headlight intact, and a passenger side window still rolled up, IF that is Suki's window?
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Post by beacon on Aug 21, 2013 9:03:35 GMT -5
Also, given that the steering wheel has become so detached, wouldn't it have embedded itself into Tara's body?
Difficult to tell from the pictures, but, there does not appear to be any evidence of this, no blood or clothing etc.
Given that the Lotus was mean't to have smashed into a lorry I wonder if that lorry actually was used to transport the wrecked car, and Tara, to the location?
According to Wiki "On 18 December 1966, Browne was driving with his girlfriend, model Suki Potier, in his Lotus Elan through South Kensington at high speed (some reports suggesting in excess of 106 mph/170 km/h).[2] It is not known whether he was under the influence of drugs or alcohol. He failed to see a traffic light and proceeded through the junction of Redcliffe Square and Redcliffe Gardens, colliding with a parked lorry. He died of his injuries the following day. Potier claimed Browne swerved the car to absorb the impact of the crash to save her life."
If he had time to swerve the car so that he absorbed the impact couldn't he have avoided the lorry altogether?
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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Aug 21, 2013 9:15:43 GMT -5
Also, given that the steering wheel has become so detached, wouldn't it have embedded itself into Tara's body? Difficult to tell from the pictures, but, there does not appear to be any evidence of this, no blood or clothing etc. Given that the Lotus was mean't to have smashed into a lorry I wonder if that lorry actually was used to transport the wrecked car, and Tara, to the location? According to Wiki "On 18 December 1966, Browne was driving with his girlfriend, model Suki Potier, in his Lotus Elan through South Kensington at high speed (some reports suggesting in excess of 106 mph/170 km/h).[2] It is not known whether he was under the influence of drugs or alcohol. He failed to see a traffic light and proceeded through the junction of Redcliffe Square and Redcliffe Gardens, colliding with a parked lorry. He died of his injuries the following day. Potier claimed Browne swerved the car to absorb the impact of the crash to save her life."If he had time to swerve the car so that he absorbed the impact couldn't he have avoided the lorry altogether? No blood, no clothing. And a very detached steering wheel. So what ripped it OUT of the car in such a way? There should be a body at the other end of it. The lorry is parked, shame we can't find out if he was parked on the double yellow, or if there is parking allowed on only one side of that street in South Kensington. |
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