PID/PWR songs

[revolver]

beatlies said:

Elvis Costello's Imposters

"Elvis Costello" =fake name of Declan Patrick Aloysius MacManus

He recently admitted that he did not actually write some of the songs credited to him. He was considered by some to be the 1970s/80s New Wave torchbearer of the Beatles' lineage in writing brilliant, artistic new rock songs.

When did he replace the name "the Attractions" with the what's-really-happening-in-Big Music clue "the Imposters"?

From the wikipedia article on Elvis Costello.

In 2002 he released a new album, When I Was Cruel, this time on Island Records, and toured with a new band, the Imposters (essentially the Attractions but with a different bass player (!), Davey Faragher, formerly of Cracker).

emphasis added.

Yes, Elvis is definitely sending a message there.

[imary]

i found something interesting inthe lyrics of miss American Pie;
Oh, and as I watched him on the stage
My hands were clenched in fists of rage.
No angel born in hell
Could break that satan’s spell.
And as the flames climbed high into the night
To light the sacrificial rite,
I saw satan laughing with delight
The day the music died
I believe there is a conection between The beatles and the occult specially satanist.Paul's dead was a sacrifice to satan?
If there more thantwo Paul ,what happen with the others?Read carefully those lyric.It's say that Paul's dead was a satanist ritual.

[mommybird]

Imary, welcome ! I think that very well could be alluding that something bad was going on. I can see the connection alright.
I've listened to that song for 30 years & never made that connection myself. I know,

[imary]

well i don't know if you know the beatles-conection with the illuminatis and satanist theory.There is a weird theory on the net that maybe Paul want to be out of that group,that maybe saw somenthing he didn't like,somenthing happend.And that Paul was suposs kill by a satanist[as John lennon killed by a suposed satanist David chapman],maybe a sacrifice.and the song say that theory for what i read.I read on the net that the suposse killer was the rolling stones.That group is a well known satanist group.Iamgoing to give you and excellent link;[is a part spanish and part english had the theory that was the rolling stones theores who suposed to kill Brian epstein and paul];http://www.beatlesjpgr.com/paulmuerto.htm

[fourthousandholes]

That's bullshit. The Rolling Stones didn't kill anyone.

[beatlies]

From the Fob Fylan album "LOVE AND THEFT" released on Tuesday September 11, 2001:

Tweedle Dee And Tweedle Dum

(Words and music by "Bob Dylan")

Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee
They're throwin' knives into the tree
Two big bags of dead man's bones
Got their noses to the grind stone
Livin' in the Land of Nod
Trustin' their fate to the hands of God
They pass by so silently
Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee

Well, they're goin' to the country, they're goin' to retire
They're takin' a streetcar named Desire
Lookin' at a window with a pecan pie
Lot of things they'd like they would never buy
Neither of them want to turn and run
They're makin' a noise to the Sun
"His Master's Voice is calling me"
Said Tweedle Dum to Tweedle Dee

Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum
I'll have more than thumb
They walk among the stately trees
They know the secrets of the breeze
Tweedle Dum said to Tweedle Dee,
"Your presence is obnoxious to me.
Feel like baby sittin' on a woman's knee."
Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee

Well, the rain beat'n' down on a window pane
I got love for you, and it's all in vain
Brains in a pot, they're beginning to boil
They're drippin' with garlic and olive oil
Tweedle Dee is on his hands and his knees
Sayin', "Throw me something, Mister, please!"
"What's good for you is good for me,"
Said Tweedle Dum to Tweedle Dee.

Well, they're living in a happy harmony
Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee
They're one day older and a dollar short
They got a paid permit and a police escort
They're lyin' low and they're makin' hay
They seem determined to go all the way
They run a brick 'n' tile company
Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee

Well, a childish dream is a deathless need
And a noble truth is a sacred creed
My pretty baby, she's looking around
She's wearin' a forty-thousand dollar gown
Tweedle Dee is a low down sorry old man
Tweedle Dum he'll stab you where you stand
"I've had too much of your company,"
said Tweedle Dum to Tweedle Dee.

[mommybird]

Beatlies, that is a very strange song. How do you think that it relates to PID/PWR ?

[fourthousandholes]

Interesting song, beatlies.

"His Master's Voice is calling me"

"His Master's Voice" was the logo printed on old RCA records, particularly their old 78 RPM records.
A dog sitting by a phonograph puzzled at hearing "his master's voice" on it.

The dog was from Liverpool!

www2.danbbs.dk/~erikoest/nipper.htm

"'His master's voice' is calling me" = RCA beckoning to Paul to join them.

[TotalInformation]

youtube.com/watch?v=lZVvtb9qAUU

[mommybird]

Tuesday's Dead Lyrics
Artist(Band):Cat Stevens Review The Song (0)


If I make a mark in time, I can't say the mark is mine.
I'm only the underline of the Word.
Yes, I'm like him, just like you, I can't tell you what to do.
Like everybody else I'm searching thru what I've heard.

Chorus:
Whoa, Where do you go? When you don't want no one to know?
Who told tomorrow Tuesday's dead

Oh preacher won't you paint my dream, won't you show me where you've been
Show me what I haven't seen to ease my mind.
Cause I will learn to understand, if I have a helping hand.
I wouldn't make another demand all my life.

Chorus:
Whoa, Where do you go? When you don't want no one to know?
Who told tomorrow Tuesday's dead

What's my sex, what's my name, all in all it's all the same.
Everybody plays a different game, that is all.
Now, man may live, man may die searching for the question why.
But if he tries to rule the sky he must fall.

Chorus:
Whoa, Where do you go? When you don't want no one to know?
Who told tomorrow Tuesday's dead

Now every second on the nose, the humdrum of the city grows.
reaching out beyond the throes of our time.
We must try to shake it down. Do our best to break the ground.
Try to turn the world around one more time.
Yeah, we must try to shake it down do our best to break the ground
Try to turn the world around one more time

Chorus:
Whoa, Where do you go? When you don't want no one to know?
Who told tomorrow Tuesday's dead

Other than the line, " "Who told tomorrow Tuesday's dead ", I find it hard correlating the rest of the lyrics with PWR/PID.
I take it that tomorrow is a code word for someone, as is Tuesday. I have heard it theorized that Tuesday was representative of Paul.
"If I make a mark in time, I can't say the mark is mine.
I'm only the underline of the Word.
Yes, I'm like him, just like you, I can't tell you what to do.
Like everybody else I'm searching thru what I've heard. " Is he referring to the song, " The Word" ? I've always found it very strange that Cat Stevens left "the business" when he was at the height of his fame. Maybe he was afraid that if he didn't leave he would've risked also being "replaced ".

[beatlies]

Land of Confusion

"Genesis" Phil Collins (who appeared as a extra in A Hard Day's Night)


I must've dreamed a thousand dreams
Been haunted by a million screams
But I can hear the marching feet
Theyre moving into the street.

Now did you read the news today
They say the dangers gone away
But I can see the fires still alight
There burning into the night.

Theres too many men
Too many people
Making too many problems
And not much love to go round
Cant you see
This is a land of confusion.

This is the world we live in
And these are the hands were given
Use them and lets start trying
To make it a place worth living in.

Ooh superman where are you now
When everythings gone wrong somehow
The men of steel, the men of power
Are losing control by the hour.

This is the time
This is the place
So we look for the future
But theres not much love to go round
Tell me why, this is a land of confusion.

This is the world we live in
And these are the hands were given
Use them and lets start trying
To make it a place worth living in.

I remember long ago -
Ooh when the sun was shining
Yes and the stars were bright
All through the night
And the sound of your laughter
As I held you tight
So long ago -

I wont be coming home tonight
My generation will put it right
Were not just making promises
That we know, well never keep.

Too many men
Theres too many people
Making too many problems
And not much love to go round
Cant you see
This is a land of confusion.

Now this is the world we live in
And these are the hands were given
Use them and lets start trying
To make it a place worth fighting for.

This is the world we live in
And these are the names were given
Stand up and lets start showing
Just where our lives are going to.

[fourthousandholes]

Nice find, beatlies!
And I had meant to say the same of the "Tweedle Dee And Tweedle Dum" song as well.
This part intrigues me:

Tweedle Dee is a low down sorry old man (Presumably Paul)
Tweedle Dum he'll stab you where you stand (Presumably Bill)
"I've had too much of your company,"
said Tweedle Dum to Tweedle Dee.

corresponds nicely to this part of "My Last Trip To Tulsa" (see page 3) :

I was chopping down a palm tree
When a friend dropped by to ask
If I would feel less lonely
If he helped me swing the axe. (Bill offers Paul his "help")
I said: No, it's not a case of being lonely
We have here.... (Paul then declines)
He said: Go get lost! (Bill tells Paul to 'get lost')
And walked towards his Cadillac.
I chopped down the palm tree
And it landed on his back.

Also to Mommybird and TotalInformation: Nice find as well. I hadn't seen your post.
Unquestionably about Paul, imo. Still, about his faked death.

[beatlies]

fourthousandholes said:

Nice find, beatlies!
And I had meant to say the same of the "Tweedle Dee And Tweedle Dum" song as well.
This part intrigues me:

Tweedle Dee is a low down sorry old man (Presumably Paul)
Tweedle Dum he'll stab you where you stand (Presumably Bill)
"I've had too much of your company,"
said Tweedle Dum to Tweedle Dee.

Also to Mommybird: Nice find as well. I hadn't seen your post.
Unquestionably about Paul, imo. Still, about his faked death.

www.guardianchronicle.com/images/the%20world%20trade%20center.jpg[/img]

Tweedledum and Tweedledee

One has a needle to stab you with. Both became "low down."


Low down sorry old man

[mommybird]

I've seen more than one photo of faces in the smoke at the World Trade Center. Very interesting observation, Beatlies.

[beatlies]

The always-annoying Tracey Ullman in a music video with a cameo by Faul, 1980s. He is driving a car.

As the scene fades into Faul, with pencil mustache, driving, The song goes "got my eyes wide open and I see the signs ... 'cause they don't know about us, they've never heard of Love...."

www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0FIl4-cC9U&mode=related&search=

[fourthousandholes]

from the video description:
"The video for "They Don't Know" featured a cameo from Paul McCartney; at the time
Ullman was filming a minor role in McCartney's film Give My Regards To Broad Street. "

[beatlies]

Some interesting background on Tracy Ullman.

She comes from a Roman Catholic and British military background (the famed Dunkirk evacuee "London Poles" that Britain tried to use as an anti-Soviet wedge in the Polish Resistance against the Nazis, against the Polish communist, anti-Nazi partisans). She began from an early age as a skilled MIMIC.

From wikipedia:

Tracey Ullman was born in Slough, Buckinghamshire (now Berkshire) to Antony Ullman, her Polish Roman Catholic, and Dorin Ullman, her English mother, who was also of Roma heritage. Antony had been a Polish soldier who was evacuated from Dunkirk in 1940. Ullman's father sold furniture, booked travel, and brokered marriages. He also translated amongst the Polish community in England. At the age of six, Ullman's father died of heart attack. He was fifty years old. In an effort to cheer the family up, Tracey recanted putting on shows in her mother's bedroom, performing along side her older sister, Patty. That first show was entitled, The Patty Ullman Show.
"I was a spin-off!" recalled Ullman. In her nightly performances Tracey was able to mimic anyone and everyone, including neighbors, family members, friends, even celebrities. Soon after, Ullman's mother remarried.
At age 12, one of Tracey's headmasters took notice of the young star's future potential, and recommended her to the Italia Conti Academy stage school. Although the school gave Ullman her first taste of the stage, she does not look back at the period as being a joyous one. Ullman's biggest drawback was her dark features. During auditions, they would line the children up, and select them for roles. Young Ullman, ethnically, did not fit the criteria (the criteria being blond-haired and blue-eyed).
At age 16, Ullman began to find jobs as a dancer. One of her big breaks came when she landed a role in Gigi in Berlin[1]. Upon returning to England, she joined the "Second Generation" dance troop[2]. She also began to appear in variety shows.
The exposure led to her being cast in numerous West End theatre musicals, including Grease, and The Rocky Horror Show[3]. During this time Ullman learned of a competition at London's Royal Court Theatre[4] for an improvised play about club acts. Deciding to enter, Ullman created the character Beverly, a born-again Christian chanteuse. Ullman proved to be a big hit and won the title of Best Newcomer Award[5]. At this point, the BBC became interested, and offered her her own show.

[jarvitronics]

I just had a funny thought that didn't warrant a new thread, so I'm putting it here...

Fixing A Hole = Fixing A--hole?

-j

[LOVELYRITA]

Something intriguing Beatlies, you have always been able to find the background of these "stars" connected in some way to the Beatles somewhere down the long and winding road of their careers, and these famous people have been part of some dark background of their parents or grandparents.

It's almost as if something was planned a generation BEFORE the Beatles, in bringing famous people together along the way. As if they were purposely placed there by these organizations.

Just a very interesting thought that came to mind. Not like these people just happened to cross paths with each other but carefully placed along the way, good example, when Yoko happened to come into John's life. At this so called "art" exhibition. Yoko's "art" attracted John to her. So we are told.....but is that really how they were introduced to each other or is this a supplanted message given to us as to how they met?

[beatlies]

lovelyrita said:

Something intriguing Beatlies, you have always been able to find the background of these "stars" connected in some way to the Beatles somewhere down the long and winding road of their careers, and these famous people have been part of some dark background of their parents or grandparents.

It's almost as if something was planned a generation BEFORE the Beatles, in bringing famous people together along the way. As if they were purposely placed there by these organizations.

Just a very interesting thought that came to mind. Not like these people just happened to cross paths with each other but carefully placed along the way, good example, when Yoko happened to come into John's life. At this so called "art" exhibition. Yoko's "art" attracted John to her. So we are told.....but is that really how they were introduced to each other or is this a supplanted message given to us as to how they met?

This Tracy Ullman/Faul video is completely evil. It includes a presumably real home movie of a little girl getting slapped hard and then crying. The point of the video is that "beautiful" Tracy is too superior, cool and high class to be unfortunately dragged down by the raffish, weak, poor proletarian man with the uncool mustache. So we are supposed to celebrate the triumph of the wealthy and superior (Frau Ullman and Sir Faul undercover (wink)) over the weak and the underdog. Like the spit-on-the-underdog John Hughes movies of that Bush-Reagan/Thatcher 1980s era, a fascist reversal of the Judeo-Christian ethic and basic morality.

I wouldn't rule that Tracey Ullman was selected out from her childhood years to become an intelligence agency-groomed "star" soft power asset, especially her family's military/intelligence background, which seems to be oh-so-remarkably common with popular actors and musicians foisted upon us as celebrity icons. This "Italia" school she was sent to for training raises some flags: Sardinia, if you recall, MMT and the overlap with the fascist "Stay Behind" program of Operation Gladio and media false flag operations. What exactly was "Strawberry Fields" anyway, the institution for children, and did any of the Beatles have stable two-parent nuclear families growing up?

Some youtube comments on the Tracey Ullman-Faul video:

cynthiacher (1 week ago) Marked as spam

I interpreted it this way; she has this boyfriend; he's a smarmy, self-centered guy but she thinks he's so great and won't listen to people who say he's bad news. Early in the relationship she's pretty and young; she marries the guy and is totally changed, a mother, frumpy and worn-out looking. She goes back in time in a fantasy and her man is Paul McCartney, not the Paul she married. Great video.
(Reply)

timbo8757 (1 week ago) Marked as spam

Well, Cynthia, I am not sure she was really keen on Mr Moustache even at the start. She rolls her eyes whenever we see her with him. She was thinking of Paul all along (not just any old good-looking guy, but someone way out of reach). Yeah, she looks frumpy later, but she never slaps him and she's defiant at the end. Such a lot in a short time! The tubular bells add an odd celebratory feeling that deepens the enigma. I want to buy those pink slippers, by the way.

[fourthousandholes]

`I've mentioned this one in other places. It blows my mind.
A prophecy of Paul, imo from about 1950. (!)
You don't have to agree. Still, David Bowie covered the song. (See link below lyrics.)

hear it:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRcn2YXaHoo (original version)


NATURE BOY
Written By: Eden Ahbez
Sung by: Nat King Cole

There was a boy...
A very strange enchanted boy.
They say he wandered very far, very far
Over land and sea,
A little shy and sad of eye
But very wise was he.
And then one day,
A magic day, he passed my way.
And while we spoke of many things,
Fools and kings,
This he said to me,
"The greatest thing you'll ever learn
Is just to love and be loved in return."

"The greatest thing you'll ever learn
Is just to love and be loved in return."
-----------------------------

But nothing about "nature" in it.[/b]

Bowie version:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3WHZ5vcyWo

Please note the imagery used. And the words: "This song is about beauty",
but written to almost look like "Reality".
-----
And then there's this song that presages "Michelle", from 1935! Sung here in its original form:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=RblMSHULNXU
by Hildegarde. Nat King Cole did it as well later, and had a hit with it.
---------------
Now what's interesting is that Hildegarde also did a 1932 song called "Trouble In Paradise".
www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYnXOD3Go1U
Playing "this kind of music" that the Beatles "Honey Pie" references.

Who else did a song called "Trouble In Paradise"?
The Hooters! And have a listen to it!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpKdrE3M0HY
Huey Lewis and the News did a song with that name as well:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=tA7rBTA8rLA

The Hooters intrigue me, because their lyrics always sounded like clues to something.
"All You Zombies" - www.youtube.com/watch?v=8U3rO0GbEhI - a song about Moses
leading the Israelites to the promised land, for instance. Not your usual Rock and Roll fare.

And who was a contemporary of Hildegarde?
"RAM[/b]ONA[/b]"!
singing about "trouble in paradise"
in this clip: www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUNqY3U8TyU

"This kind of music" that "Honey Pie" liked.
Curiouser and curiouser, yes?

I leave you with this!
"May the great mystery make sunrise in your heart"
www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl3vhALR8Fk

(Psst. clue: - "Darling Je Vous Aime Beaucoup" ("Darling, I Like You Very Much")
was written from one woman to another.
Paul, in the MMT cartoon panel of "Fool on the Hill", is the sunrise,
and she's wearing a dress. But as Hildegarde explains, the song is about a young English
'boy' who is having trouble expressing the love he has for his French girlfriend. Hmmmm.)
Gee, ain't it funny how time slips away....
Time keeps on slippin', slippin', slippin' into the future...

[fourthousandholes]

Well here's another clue for you all: relative to the post above.

us.imdb.com/title/tt0203009/plotsummary

(Plot summaries for the 2001 movie Moulin Rouge: )

Christian, a young wannabe Bohemian poet living in 1899 Paris, defies his father by joining the colorfully diverse clique inhabiting the dark, fantastical underworld of Paris' now legendary Moulin Rouge. In this seedy but glamorous haven of sex, drugs and newly-discovered electricity, the poet-innocent finds himself plunged into a passionate but ultimately tragic love affair with Satine, the club's highest paid star and the city's most famous courtesan. Their romance is played out against the infamous club - a meeting place of high life and low, where slumming aristocrats and the fashionably rich mingled with workers, artists, Bohemians, actresses and courtesans. Written by Sujit R. Varma

In 1900, Christian, an impoverished writer who has come from England the year before, types his story: he arrived in Montmartre and fell in with Toulouse-Lautrec and Bohemians who believe in freedom, truth, beauty, and love. They want to sell a show to the Moulin Rouge, and its impresario wants a backer so he can build a proper theatre. He's plying a duke, who wants exclusive access to the favors of Satine, the Moulin Rouge's consumptive star.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5pkkAhETYg
She wants to be a proper actress, so the duke's offer is fine - except that she and Christian fall in love. Can Satine keep the duke at bay without losing his patronage, will he discover the lovers and kill Christian, and can love trump jealousy? Written by {[e-mail]}

It's Paris in 1899. Christian, a young English poet, comes to Paris to persue a pennyless career as a writer. However, he soon meets a group of Bohemians who tell him that he should write a musical show for them to be performed at the Moulin Rouge, the most famous underworld night club in Paris. The night they arrive at the Moulin Rouge, Christian meets Satine, the club's star and a beautiful courtesan. He falls head-over-heels in love with her and though it takes a bit of convincing, she falls for him as well. Meanwhile, the club's owner, Harold Zidler, invests in a wealthy Duke to help pay for the club, however, the duke will only pay if Satine is his. This crazy love triangle twists and turns. And little does Satine know that she has a deadly secret that could end everything. Written by sweetlilcyclone210
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What the Moulin Rouge really is:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moulin_Rouge

I've posted this here because it links to my post above. Specifically: Bowie's rendition
of "Nature Boy" used for that movie.
(cough cough)[/color]

Oh, and please, if you've read this far, and have decided I'm a raving loon, please note this
line in the Wikipedia article:

" 'A Night at the Moulin Rouge', a 1951 film (also circulated under the title Ding Dong![/b])
of burlesque acts of the Moulin Rouge club in Oakland, California."
lots of "ding dongs" here:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcfaCbCesmM&v3

And take note of the "death theme" in the description of the French club, as well as the man's
apartment. She said she'd always been a dancer....[/i]

Ah, what the he**, I'll just throw this into the mix:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfyWWfzu20g
Maybe beatlies will have something to say.
the more things change, the more they stay the same

[fourthousandholes]

If you don't know this song, just skip this post.
For geezers only: Lots of oblique references.

hear it: www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y7GDK1ImzM

" 'The Court Of The Crimson King
including The Return Of The Fire Witch
and The Dance Of The Puppets'
(McDonald-Sinfield)

The rusted chains of prison moons
Are shattered by the sun.
I walk a road, horizons change
The tournament's begun.
The purple piper plays his tune,
The choir softly sing;
Three lullabies in an ancient tongue,
For the court of the crimson king.

The keeper of the city keys
Put shutters on the dreams.
I wait outside the pilgrim's door
With insufficient schemes.
The black queen chants
the funeral march,
The cracked brass bells will ring;
To summon back the fire witch
To the court of the crimson king.

The gardener plants an evergreen
Whilst trampling on a flower.
I chase the wind of a prism ship
To taste the sweet and sour.
The pattern juggler lifts his hand;
The orchestra begin.
As slowly turns the grinding wheel
In the court of the crimson king.


On soft grey mornings widows cry,
The wise men share a joke;
I run to grasp divining signs
To satisfy the hoax.
The yellow jester does not play
But gently pulls the strings
And smiles as the puppets dance
In the court of the crimson king."

[Mellow Yellow]

I know that song and I'm no geezer!

Seriously, I'd go so far as to say that I like King Crimson more than Pink Floyd.

[Paul Bearer]

Judy In Disguise