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Post by JoJo on May 23, 2009 17:32:58 GMT -5
Google misnumbers Paul McCartney’s house
If hordes of people show up with cameras at the address Google lists as 7 Cavendish Avenue, St Johns Wood, London, and start chipping bits off the gate as souvenirs, the people who live there will probably be wondering what the hell is going on.
How come?
It’s all down to Google’s sense of direction, and Mark Stephens in Times Online.
“I’ve always wondered what was over Paul McCartney’s fence,” writes Mark.
What prompted him was the arrival of Google’s Street View in Britain, and in this particular, in London, NW8, or specifically, St Johns Wood.
Sings Mick Jagger in Play with Fire, “Your mother she’s an heiress, owns a block in St Johns Wood,” to give you an idea of the kind of money you’d be looking at if you want to live there.
And that was back in 1971.
These days you’d have to be an heiress in the range of Charlene de Carvalho of Heineken brewing empire fame, perhaps.
Or maybe Mary or Stella McCartney.
“It is an open secret in the neighbourhood which is his house,” continues Mark. “He has the sort of gates that bring a little bit of the Home Counties to London and a wall so high you can’t walk past and cast a casual glance into the front window. Now, thanks to Google Street View, not only have I hurdled the barricades to peek, I have also read the number plates of the cars parked behind his forbidding gates.”
Really?
So we went for a look.
Google is careful to say addresses aren’t precise, but it was considerably off with Paul McCartney’s London pad — 7 Cavendish Avenue, St Johns Wood, London NW8 9JE.
Because the house Google shows at address is actually 3 Cavendish Avenue.
Paul’s place is a bit further down the road - on the right with a brown gate.
But Hey, every cloud has a silver lining!
If there are any kids living at Number 3, instead of selling lemonade at 20p a glass on the weekend, they can peddle bits of brick from Sir Paul’s Wall at two or three quid a go!
Can’t all be bad.If you want to see for yourself, go here: (SP complained to Google Maps and had his address blacked out though) maps.google.com/mapsAnd then cut 'n paste this: 7 Cavendish Ave, Paddington, Greater London NW8 9, United Kingdom Hmm, remember that Christmas thing from 1967? "You have been elected independent candidate for Paddington!" EDIT: Link: www.p2pnet.net/story/19221
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Post by JoJo on May 23, 2009 14:04:42 GMT -5
Haha it would a long trip because I live in New Hampshire. (USA) But I appreciate the offer. I've been spending the last few weekends cleaning up from the aftermath of last year's ice storm, and finally I am seeing the finish line. Well anyway good for you being willing to work towards your goal. That's why you have to pay up, it has to cover the flight Heh well sorry friend, it will have to wait 'till I get rich. ;D
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Post by JoJo on May 22, 2009 17:18:35 GMT -5
That chin thing... kinda cool i have to admit. But it's not impossible to replicate with plastic surgery... I don't really want to start and arguement but how do you explain the earlobes and changes in singing voice? But if you were going to have an easier time of it from the POV of a surgeon charged with the task, you would absolutely want the jawline to be on the money. Teeth, eyebrows, eye color (yes even in the late 60's) can be changed, and most importantly, the cheekbones. It involves a hammer and some plaster type material to make the shattered cheek bones grow back the way you want.. must hurt like hell.
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Post by JoJo on May 22, 2009 17:05:33 GMT -5
Haha it would a long trip because I live in New Hampshire. (USA) But I appreciate the offer. I've been spending the last few weekends cleaning up from the aftermath of last year's ice storm, and finally I am seeing the finish line. Well anyway good for you being willing to work towards your goal.
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Post by JoJo on May 22, 2009 14:22:05 GMT -5
Well then, and laws in your state may vary, but perhaps now would be a good time to get a part time job, or mow lawns or something.. How's that for sounding like a grumpy old man, lol. I'd die of shock if a kid your age came around looking to do yard work, so you may be able to corner the market..
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Post by JoJo on May 19, 2009 21:03:37 GMT -5
She mentioned Kim Jong and Saddam, but not Chairman Mao. Remember the pages from the book about photo tampering I posted here, that was not just accepted as true, the CIA proved to their satisfaction that a double was used for public appearances. Reason: Mao was becoming ill on a regular basis and couldn't appear in public in robust health, however the real deal would return when he was doing better.
Doug, sorry but colored contacts were available not just "much later" than when you were born 42 years ago. Yes, they became common when soft contact lens makers started making them, but hard contacts were colored sometimes. Wish I hadn't lost this in a hard drive crash, but I found a classified ad in the NY Times from the late 60's in the lost and found section.. Someone was looking for a green contact lens he or she lost.
Tina did a good job, and I always like a good discussion about this Beatle mystery. I think it's obvious it's someone from the forums, there is no disguising that, not when the host is reading (!) from posts here or at MB's forum.. There is certain language usage that is unmistakable.
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Post by JoJo on May 16, 2009 13:44:22 GMT -5
Wait, so we've had endless discussions about Paul's alleged involvement with Aleister Crowley and the California west coast Satanism scene, but when this comes up it's ridiculous? At least we know for a fact that John was one bizarre fellow, while Paul has always been perceived to be thr normal one. John's the one who thought he had been abducted by aliens after all, and it's just as likely that he's the one who picked Aleister Crowley for Pepper cover. Psychic vision to me is reality. Even as a child. When I looked at myself in the mirror or when I was 12, 13, I used to literally trance out into alpha. I didn't know what it was called then. I found out years later there is a name for those conditions. But I would find myself seeing hallucinatory images of my face changing and becoming cosmic and complete- John Lennon, 1980 Playboy interview Come on, people. Let's not pretend that Paul is the one with all the dirty secrets, and ignore the Lennon-shaped elephant in the room! For the record, I think the Crowley/satanism stuff about Paul is ridiculous too.. None of what you cited about Lennon proves he "sold his soul to the devil". That's if you believe in that.. I don't.. Sorry but I don't.
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Post by JoJo on May 16, 2009 9:23:58 GMT -5
Ridiculous.. So how do Paul, George and Ringo figure into this? Did they benefit without any accompanying deal with Satan? So I guess we can stop wondering if John was killed because certain PTB didn't want him around, it was just a mythical creature in a red suit and horns..
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Post by JoJo on May 15, 2009 17:56:21 GMT -5
You can solve any mystery by following the $$$, but of course that isn't always so easy.. People tend to keep those transactions as secret as possible.
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Post by JoJo on May 14, 2009 19:58:32 GMT -5
Sir Paul is always getting flowers, be it in a cartoon (Yellow Sub) or just random people from the audience at the end of a concert. (witnessed it myself) Of course, word gets out that he likes flowers, it's even part of his contract with concert venues that his room be furnished with them. Ringo kinda shoved a bouquet at him at the end of the Concert For George while laughing.. (don't remember the color)
To answer your question, I don't remember any yellow roses right off, I'll take a look around. Interesting about it meaning 'betrayal'.
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Post by JoJo on May 14, 2009 19:43:26 GMT -5
The travel agent story is supported by the Goldman book as well. It also said the Dali painting was bought with money given by his father in law. I agree all this money flying around is odd, he was a pretty lucky guy all things considered. I've had that happen, reading something then not being able to track it down.. Drives ya crazy, eh? About Goldman's book, there are issues, and of course many Lennon fans were angry about what they perceived as an airing of dirty laundry, many accused him of being loose with the facts. A couple of things bothered me about the MDC chapters.. First, he claims that Gloria "had nothing to worry about on his second trip as he had thrown the gun and bullets into the ocean". (implying that she had witnessed it, but not explicitly saying so) Then he describes Chapman shooting the very same gun without explaining how that jives the previous statement. Second, he talks about how he got hollow point bullets from his cop friend in Georgia, describing how they are designed to break up upon impact, and then describes the actual injuries in a way that is inconsistent with the description of those type of bullets without any comment on the discrepancy. Sloppy...
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Post by JoJo on May 14, 2009 17:23:56 GMT -5
I re-read the chapters regarding the murder in Albert Goldman's book, and the ritzy digs/artwork is explained by Chapman's wife Gloria Abe, who was the daughter of a rich Japanese baker. Yoko's family was wealthy too, maybe it's possible they crossed paths. Also have to wonder if Yoko and Gloria became friendly after, seems odd, but there could be the thing where they share a loss tied to the same event. Dunno..
Interestingly, John was talking to someone in the studio the night of the murder, saying that he "was on borrowed time", and that after his death his legend would grow like Elvis.
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Post by JoJo on May 13, 2009 20:23:43 GMT -5
I looked at the articles Time and Newsweek had right after John's killing (both issues are December 22, 1980) and I didn't find the "Chapman's wife as friend of Yoko Ono" statement in either. But I DID read that somewhere and I'm sure it was in a newsmagazine; I'll keep looking. Rereading those articles, I was again impressed by the "push the news media's buttons" sense of it. I agree with Jude that it was a conspiracy, but I don't think it is the one he thinks it is. "They" knew if they could cast Chapman as a crazed loner with a gun, the news media would run with that, and not ask, as they say, the tough questions. Time was a little incredulous on how a security guard could afford an apartment in a Honolulu high-rise and money to buy Salvador Dali and Norman Rockwell artwork, but the media never took the investigation any further. I'm a bit incredulous about that myself! I'll have to visit the microfilm room, nice tidbit even if they didn't pursue.. Funny, the crazed lone gunman was always a nice reliable way to dispense with a "problem". Notice how political figures aren't taken out that way anymore? Guess it's too cliche, like people would mistrust the tale immediately. Much like JFK, there was a "magic bullet".
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Post by JoJo on May 12, 2009 19:42:06 GMT -5
8749, I would really appreciate if you would, that's not at all a trivial thing. If it's Time or Newsweek, the article would be indexed in the guide to periodicals, but do you have a rough idea of the time frame? I'm assuming it was an article about John's murder? A researcher friend of mind would probably find this helpful, thanks.
Going to motivation is tough, who knows but.. I can tell you the interpretation real easy.. That Chapman was looking for fame, and this was a small detail in his plan for same.
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Post by JoJo on May 11, 2009 17:29:43 GMT -5
Remember, the killer's wife knew Yoko. Hint. Well, she was Japanese and MDC married her it is said because of his obsession to be "like John". But where did you hear this may I ask? That's a new one on me.
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Post by JoJo on May 9, 2009 17:06:14 GMT -5
I have got 3 questions: 1. Does Jojo consider GN's posts as spam? 2. if not, why so? No. Spam would be if he posted links to sites selling Viagra. Most people here are familiar with Sun King's material and have already made up their minds about it, so.. Who cares?
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Post by JoJo on May 8, 2009 20:27:57 GMT -5
And it's fine that you think that. That's why I call it a theory---it hasn't been proven, and if someone thinks otherwise, who am I to say "You're wrong, I'm right, John is alive". All the same, it would be nice to hear why you find the idea that John staged his own death so improbable. Well it would make a great movie plot.. Famous rock star learns through insiders of his imminent assassination with mind controlled stooge as the purported shooter, but with the real assassin hidden in the shadows. But wait, the guy who is supposed to really do the hit is really working for the rock star. Well that's how it would have to have gone down.. I'm of the opinion that the official story is a lie, and the real killer was upstream from the gate, and hey I'd love it (the John is alive scenario) to be true.. I'll keep the possibility door open just a crack just because..
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Post by JoJo on May 6, 2009 20:45:24 GMT -5
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Post by JoJo on May 5, 2009 20:46:06 GMT -5
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Post by JoJo on May 5, 2009 17:45:28 GMT -5
I don't think I'm understanding this; you want me to stay out of the Members Only section? No.. I made it so you can see/post there, that to me conveys the opposite..
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Post by JoJo on May 4, 2009 17:35:02 GMT -5
I have to manually approve, just the way I like to do it. Everyone gets in as soon as I see a new member, have to be patient. Be warned, anyone that causes a ruckus can be disallowed as well.. (stay with the forum, but out of Members Only)
Thanks.
Oh and you are in.
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Post by JoJo on May 3, 2009 19:47:53 GMT -5
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Post by JoJo on May 3, 2009 19:37:21 GMT -5
Eh, nothing specific, just seem to remember that being the only time things got really buzzing to that degree.
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Post by JoJo on May 3, 2009 17:20:56 GMT -5
Probably IAAP related, true.
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Post by JoJo on May 2, 2009 23:25:33 GMT -5
Well you see, Gniknus still has the power to wake up 'ol APOV..
Too ridiculous for even he to ignore? Or if you take out the Pauline part it may just be something?
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