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KLAATU
Feb 3, 2006 15:23:55 GMT -5
Post by mciiii on Feb 3, 2006 15:23:55 GMT -5
Went to a little used book store today, that also sells old vinyl. Didn't find anything interesting the Beatles section, but I looked under "K" and scored an original "Klaatu"! And for $4.50, sweet! I brought to the counter, and the clerk said "Oh wow, Klaatu!... I remember when I was working in a record store in 1976, and everyone thought it was the Beatles reunited." He said he was deluged with calls asking if they had the album in stock. Interesting... The shrub at the bottom of the page is worth a look, but I don't see anything definative myself. (I'm not much good at this anyway) Anyone who can make something out, give a yell.. And a too large version for an inbedded image but more detail: www.jojoplace.org/Shoebox/Klaatu/Klaatushrublarge.jpgSeven rots , like seven leters as BEATLES word? This lyrics got me intrigued, from the song Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III Act II
Now in the fall of '49 Paul got 4 letters, McCartney got 9 letters He skipped across the seven brine This time looking for a berth in naval history "Twas never heard nor seen again Officially presumed as dead The Sgt Pepper OPD patch (actually OPP, but OPD at the Peppertime) But the words he left behind Still echo through my mind: "I'm the only man who'll ever get to hell and come back alive." He's the only man who'd ever get to hell and come back alive.
So off he went around the world...
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KLAATU
Feb 3, 2006 19:22:02 GMT -5
Post by JoJo on Feb 3, 2006 19:22:02 GMT -5
There are indeed seven bushes, and it was suggested that they had the word "Beatles" spelled out. If so, they hid the letters well, I tried tricks with mirrors, blowing them up in Photoshop, etc.
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KLAATU
Feb 3, 2006 19:51:23 GMT -5
Post by il ras on Feb 3, 2006 19:51:23 GMT -5
btw, i still see OPD
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KLAATU
Feb 3, 2006 20:08:59 GMT -5
Post by plastic paul on Feb 3, 2006 20:08:59 GMT -5
MCIII, i agree that song is ('scuse the nautical pun) fishy!
I'm sure i've heard that there's something about "hell and come back again" as well...
The music's rather "WHen I'm Sixty Four" as well.
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KLAATU
Feb 3, 2006 21:27:04 GMT -5
Post by JoJo on Feb 3, 2006 21:27:04 GMT -5
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KLAATU
Feb 3, 2006 21:39:34 GMT -5
Post by il ras on Feb 3, 2006 21:39:34 GMT -5
Don't want to insist but in the inner picture of SGT. P.... the second and the third letter on Bill's sholuders look different one to the other. It's just me to have this idea?
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KLAATU
Feb 3, 2006 21:51:52 GMT -5
Post by JoJo on Feb 3, 2006 21:51:52 GMT -5
The way I see it, "OPD" was one of those possible clues that was seen as a "fit" with the whole PID collection of clues promoted by mainstream media. Somewhere here I posted a collection of radio programs from the era, and it was managed as such, with that "OPD" often getting top billing.
Problem is, the glaring omision in the discussion was simple: It is clearly an OPP shoulder flash. Why didn't anyone bring that up? Maybe an OPP patch with the last P changed to a D, but that's unlikely IMO.
The clue was the patch, not OPD
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KLAATU
Feb 4, 2006 3:38:05 GMT -5
Post by -Wings- on Feb 4, 2006 3:38:05 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm still amazed that the "OPD" thing gets as much play as it does. The clue itself was the OPP shoulder patch. Didn't anybody draw the connection between that and the uniform worn in Magical Mystery Tour? Why isn't that brought up to this day?
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KLAATU
Feb 4, 2006 14:54:22 GMT -5
Post by mciiii on Feb 4, 2006 14:54:22 GMT -5
Why not OPP can mean, Officially Pronounced Paul, like baptism for Billy?
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KLAATU
Apr 29, 2006 21:42:58 GMT -5
Post by JoJo on Apr 29, 2006 21:42:58 GMT -5
The original Providence Journal article speculating on "who is Klaatu?"
The Providence Sunday Journal ARTS and TRAVEL February 13, 1977 Just before Christmas I listened to a refreshing new album that sounded incredibly "Beatlish." I checked the album, entitled Klaatu, for names or pictures of the musicians but there were none. All credits were given to Klaatu. Curious, I called Capitol Records and was told it was a "mystery group."
Who are Klaatu? That is the mystery. Their names are being kept secret by Capitol Records and Frank Davies, who handles the group's so-far clandestine affairs. The band will not submit to any publicity pictures (Capitol press release says that "they want to be known for their music and not for whom they are"). They are rumored to be independently wealthy. Capitol claims to have no knowledge of the identities of the band members, but this raises a question: Why would Capitol invest in an "unknown"?
Klaatu's album brings back memories of the Beatles on every song, especially Sub Rosa Subway, a song about the building of the New York subway system, and Doctor Marvello, about a man with mystical powers.
Sub Rosa Subway sounds like 1968-1969 Beatles. The vocals are exactly like Paul McCartney's, the drumming like Ringo Starr's, and the guitar work like George Harrison's and John Lennon's.
Doctor Marvello sounds like George Harrison a la Blue Jay Way with the rest of the Beatles backing, complete with sitar and reverse tape effects.
Other songs have digs from the Beatles' past such as singing through fuzztones, "Yeah, Yeah, Yeahs" and unmistakable harmonies.
Capitol's stonewallers did disclose that the word Klaatu was taken from a 1951 science fiction movie. The Day the Earth Stood Still. In it Michael Rennie played a peace emissary from outer space named Klaatu. In Canada the name of the album is called 3:47 EST which is the time Klaatu arrived on Earth in the movie. (On the cover of Ringo Starr's album, Goodnight Vienna Ringo is standing in the doorway of the spaceship next to the robot from that same movie).
According to Klaatoons, the band's publishing company, Klaatu can also mean "been here before" (return?).
Looking up many words from the lyrics, I discovered they concerned secrecy, underground, renewal and revival.
A song on the album, Bodsworth Rugglesby III is misspelled on the back of the album cover so that it says Rubblesby. Defining bods, worth, rubbles, and by, Bodsworth Rubblesby could mean: persons of importance born of quarrying." The Beatles were first known as the Quarrymen.
In Sub Rosa Subway there is mention of, first, New York City and then, Washington. The Beatles first arrived in the United States in New York City and played the Ed Sullivan Show and Carnegie Hall, then they played the Washington Coliseum.
The whole album is about magic, mystery and touring, and true Beatles freaks know that Magical Mystery Tour was the only album the Beatles considered a failure. Could Klaatu be their answer to that?
I finally reached Frank Davies, Klaatu's "sort of manager," in Toronto. He said he could not tell me who was in the band. I asked him if it was the Beatles or whether they had anything to do with Klaatu. First, he gave me a flat "No" and said that the only Beatle connection was "inspirational." But when asked if any of the Beatles played on the album, he hesitated, laughed quietly, hesitated again and then said that "everything you've summarized is really pretty accurate all the way around" and that "everything that is there, can and will be identified even without, perhaps them, the people, being seen."
To add a final note of intrigue, Davies said there are many clues on the album about the band's identity, the biggest clue being a morse code message at the end of Sub Rosa Subway telling a lot about the band, the album and that song. (Davies has offered to give a Klaatu album and/or posters and buttons to the first person who can decode that message. Entries can be sent to Steve Smith in care of this newspaper). Davies said that "when it is finally let known as to whom they are, your story will be interesting to look back on."
The album's musical and lyrical clues left four possibilities as to whom this mystery band could be: 1. The Beatles. 2. A couple of the Beatles with other people. 3. A Beatle-backed band. 4. A completely unknown but ingenious and talented band.
A single by the band was scheduled for release this week. The "A" side is Calling Occupants of Interplanetary Craft backed with Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III Also, their second album is due out in April. Their first album is hard to find, but may be ordered from record stores. WBRU-FM is the only radio station giving it any airplay so far. Whoever Klaatu is, their album was well worth waiting for.
Is it the Beatles? You are welcome to draw your own conclusions - and if "Yesterday" is here, "Let it Be."
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KLAATU
May 8, 2006 8:51:37 GMT -5
Post by Paul Bearer on May 8, 2006 8:51:37 GMT -5
Well, I've skimmed through their first album (347EST Hope)and I have to say I don't think it sounds particularly like The Beatles at all.
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KLAATU
May 8, 2006 14:45:23 GMT -5
Post by JoJo on May 8, 2006 14:45:23 GMT -5
TI: I don't think "The Day That Earth Stood Still" is "off-topic"...
True, it belongs here, so moved from OT:
The Day the Earth Stood Still..
Great movie, and not at all what I expected.
Now I know who the "interplanetary policeman" is.
To back up a bit, Klaatu is a visitor from another planet who comes with a message for all of mankind, accompanied by his robot bodyguard. He lands in most public way, right in the DC mall, steps from the spaceship, and meets the human race with the predictable result.. A bullet to the shoulder.
He survives, and the rest of the movie is mostly about his quest to find a way of communicating his message to all the world's leaders. The message?
We don't care if you kill each other in endless cycles of violence, but take it out of your own sphere so to speak, and earth goes bye bye, we don't need it (and won't tolerate it) intruding on our space. (the aliens were concerned that earth had technology, or were developing it to travel beyond our solar system)
No war of the worlds drama here, that was the surprise. Just a simple message, you may have more power than you know how to deal with someday, which involves making choices, so choose wisely.
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KLAATU
Dec 3, 2006 12:16:34 GMT -5
Post by il ras on Dec 3, 2006 12:16:34 GMT -5
Just a thought, could it be a reference to the underworld, the cave earth?
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KLAATU
Dec 3, 2006 12:37:19 GMT -5
Post by fourthousandholes on Dec 3, 2006 12:37:19 GMT -5
mciiii wrote: This lyrics got me intrigued, from the song Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III Act II
Now in the fall of '49 Paul got 4 letters, McCartney got 9 letters He skipped across the seven brine This time looking for a berth in naval history "Twas never heard nor seen again Officially presumed as dead The Sgt Pepper OPD patch (actually OPP, but OPD at the Peppertime) But the words he left behind Still echo through my mind: "I'm the only man who'll ever get to hell and come back alive." He's the only man who'd ever get to hell and come back alive.
So off he went around the world...
----------------- "This time looking for a berth in naval history" "Admiral Halsey notified me, He had to have a berth or he couldn't get to sea." about Admiral Halsey: www.history.navy.mil/photos/pers-us/uspers-h/w-halsy.htm------------- Number 49 tombstone shown here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlQHoelGzbM&NR
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KLAATU
Dec 3, 2006 17:17:54 GMT -5
Post by plastic paul on Dec 3, 2006 17:17:54 GMT -5
Didn't Apollo have some intriguing theory about Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby and the "hell and come back alive" bit that he never disclosed, i'm sure I questioned him, trying to second guess but that went off the boil?
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KLAATU
Dec 4, 2006 13:40:45 GMT -5
Post by fourthousandholes on Dec 4, 2006 13:40:45 GMT -5
There's nothing on this site about that. He did mention the 'crickets' on Klaatu's "Calling Occupants". Jesus Christ is reported to have visited hell after his crucifiction in the Bible.* And he came back, so Sir Bodswell Rugglesby wouldn't be the only man to have been to hell and back, unless he was Jesus Christ, or he meant he was the only "mere mortal" to do so. Of course we're talking about a fictional character (or so it would seem). * I can't find the reference I'm looking for, but there are some references in this article. (Posted for hell reference only.) www.av1611.org/hell.htmla different point of view: www.tentmaker.org/articles/jesusteachingonhell.htmlThe scripture I'm thinking of says he "preached to the spirits in hell" during the time between his death and ressurection. I imagine no one being burned would be paying much attention to what anyone was saying, so I think the idea is that he was preaching to disincarnate spirits at the time. (That is, the dead, but not in a firey place.) Any way that claim by Sir Bodswell Rugglesby has always been an eyebrow raiser for me.
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KLAATU
Dec 4, 2006 13:51:52 GMT -5
Post by il ras on Dec 4, 2006 13:51:52 GMT -5
Jesus Christ is reported to have visited hell after his crucification in the Bible. Can you please tell me where i can read about it? (I started this post, before you modified yours, sorry) Anyway I think it "hell" could have been used as a metaphor for the underworl
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KLAATU
Dec 4, 2006 14:00:03 GMT -5
Post by fourthousandholes on Dec 4, 2006 14:00:03 GMT -5
I agree (in essence). Come to think of it, Apollo did once write: "There exist many who have played a part in this ongoing drama. Some are dead, and some are living." Hmmmm. Just a thought, could it be a reference to the underworld, the cave earth?
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KLAATU
Dec 4, 2006 22:25:02 GMT -5
Post by Doc on Dec 4, 2006 22:25:02 GMT -5
I agree (in essence). Come to think of it, Apollo did once write: "There exist many who have played a part in this ongoing drama. Some are dead, and some are living." Hmmmm. Just a thought, could it be a reference to the underworld, the cave earth? Well, I have had a nagging inkling that what we may be missing in the picture is that there are two other Paul's in the picture. Making three. Sir Paul is the one we all know; Sullivan Paul is the one some of us remember, and I sense a third "Paul" in the mix, talanted like the other two, but more taciturn and introspective, not seeking the spotlight. Sullivan Paul seemed to be a 23 year old but still a kid at heart, rolling into the success and fame with all unbridled enthusiasm, Quiet Paul only wanted to make good music; Sir Paul had a broader picture in mind and has sought many varied goals. [Doc pauses for reaction] [Nothing. Doc hears only his own breathing and the ticking of someone's wristwatch, four miles away.] Well! Let's see what other new ideas we might explore..........
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KLAATU
Dec 11, 2006 19:44:48 GMT -5
Post by il ras on Dec 11, 2006 19:44:48 GMT -5
mciiii wrote: This lyrics got me intrigued, from the song Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III ....................................................................................................................................................................... But the words he left behind Still echo through my mind: "I'm the only man who'll ever get to hell and come back alive." He's the only man who'd ever get to hell and come back alive. Can this be a link that joins "Klaatu" and "The fool?" Dante went to hell and came back alive...
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KLAATU
Dec 13, 2006 17:38:34 GMT -5
Post by beatlies on Dec 13, 2006 17:38:34 GMT -5
"Ruggles" is Thomas Pynchon's middle name. It's an elite old money U.S. WASP family ..... "The Fool" figures prominently in his "The Crying of Lot 49" book, 1966, in regards to "The Paranoids" "Los Paranoias" the Beatles.
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KLAATU
Dec 30, 2006 0:44:39 GMT -5
Post by JoJo on Dec 30, 2006 0:44:39 GMT -5
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KLAATU
Dec 30, 2006 1:05:22 GMT -5
Post by Doc on Dec 30, 2006 1:05:22 GMT -5
I have the recording. I had never seen the video before. Hallelujah for the youtube.
Thanks for posting, Jojo. Pretty wild, yes.
Maybe Paul and John became UFO enthusiasts in 1965-66. Let's go further out, way too far out. What if Paul was abducted? What if he returned in an entirely different state of mind from it? Alive, but somehow............altered for life by the strangeness of the experience? What if he became a conduit between alien communications and say, the Scotland Yard?
Or what if they just TOOK away, took away, far away, up in their craft, out, beyond, and not returning? "Paul in Space".
Like, they took him back to their home planet of Zib-Floomp-Gorax 7, in the Crab Nebula, where he awaits rescue by the Federation? Using good old Plan number 9?
Let's reel it back in, shall I?
Hmm...It's hard to come back once you've spun out that far, eh? I'm not the first for doing that.......nothing to do but close this post.
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KLAATU
Dec 30, 2006 13:12:13 GMT -5
Post by lili on Dec 30, 2006 13:12:13 GMT -5
I had no idea that The Carpenters recorded that song. WOW ! I've never relly delved into the Klaatu connection. Not my bag, I guess. I guess I should give it another go.
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KLAATU
Dec 30, 2006 13:22:37 GMT -5
Post by fourthousandholes on Dec 30, 2006 13:22:37 GMT -5
Well uh, now that you mention it..... I did have kind of a "close encounter of the Carpenter kind" a while back: www.leadsister.com/articles/fatemagazine.html" Karen Is HereThis article is found in Fate Magazine for February 2001 How interesting this is!In late November 1995, I was fired from my job as a motel desk clerk. I was devastated because I had always given the job my best and did not feel that I deserved to be fired. I became quite depressed, and the approaching Christmas season just made me feel even more miserable as I pondered being penniless for the holidays. My friends Mary and Rita and I were in the habit of visiting our friend Pat in Scranton every Thursday night. Pat was home-bound due to poor health, and we would always stop at a particular pizza parlor to eat before we went to her house. It was the first Thursday of December. We took our usual seats at the pizza place, and I noticed a tape player on top of the soda cooler. As we ate, the Carpenters' "Christmas Portrait" tape was playing at a moderate volume. For some reason, it seemed to sound (much) better than should have been possible, given the modest player being used. In fact, with each passing song the magnificence of the music seemed to increase until I could have sworn that Karen Carpenter herself was standing next to our table singing with all of her heart .... By the time the song "Christ is Born" was played, I half wondered if the people eating would burst into thunderous applause at the end, due to how stunningly awesome the performance was! It didn't happen, but I was so impressed that I bought a copy of the tape the next day in spite of my economic condition, and I played it constantly through out December. I found that it cheered me up quite a bit. A few years later, Rita's husband died. He had asked Rita to call one of their acquaintances in the event of his death, but she was unable to find the name and address or phone number of the person, though she remembered her husband had written it down on a sheet of paper. Rita decided to see if she could reach her husband through "automatic writing" to locate the missing information. She asked Mary and me to join her in the attempt in case she herself wasn't gifted that way. As it turned out, she seemed to be very good at it. Her husband "came through" with the location of the paper, and commented on a number of other things. Then he said, "Tell Bob that Karen is here. She's a singer." I sat for a minute trying to think of who this "Karen" might be, when Rita suddenly said, "Oh, It's Karen Carpenter." I was stunned, particularly since I had never known her personally, and in fact, hadn't been much of a fan of hers. Yet she apparently had wanted Rita's husband to tell me (that) she was where ever he was at the time, as if she knew me, and wanted me to know she was saying hi. I went home that night, and played the Christmas Portrait tape. When "Christ is Born" came on, and I heard the line "Hear the joyful angels singing," I got the cold chills. I suddenly realized that, in fact, I had heard one quite clearly." Carpenters Christ is Born Audio HQ Remasterizado www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEpehkI80JU
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