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KLAATU
Dec 30, 2006 13:37:37 GMT -5
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Post by lili on Dec 30, 2006 13:37:37 GMT -5
I remember reading that article ! I had no idea that it was you who had written it. WOW ! It could very well be that you & Karen were connected in a previous lifetime. You just didn't connect this time around. [img src="http://galeon.hispavista.com/akostuff/img/Dunno2[1].gif"] It explains why the Christmas tape sounded so much better to you in the pizza parlor. Karen might've been there "visiting" with you at that time.
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KLAATU
Dec 30, 2006 15:30:59 GMT -5
Post by fourthousandholes on Dec 30, 2006 15:30:59 GMT -5
Well certainly some aspect of her seems to have blessed the music with a heavenly vibration. That's the only way I can describe it. It was AWESOME, and I couldn't believe that nobody else seemed to be noticing. Now whether she and I go way back to the planet Zib-Floomp-Gorax 7, in the Crab Nebula, I can't say. But I think she must have been acting as an angel, cheering up a down-on-his-luck Earthling, because when I heard the "Hear the joyful angels singing" line again years later, after being told that she was "here", it hit me like a ton of bricks, and I instantly understood that she had been at the pizza parlor. Not like a ghost, but in me, by way of the music. What I'm trying to say is this: that somehow, listening to the tape at the pizza place, I had tuned into the spirit of the music, and it was as if I was hearing it the way God heard her sing it, for lack of a better way of putting it, and then, when I went home and heard that line years later, I suddenly understood consciously that what I had heard was the voice of an angel. It was as if I was being told that the "angelic" voice of Karen Carpenter was, in fact, the angelic voice of Karen Carpenter, but not verbally, but through some sort of "knowing"; and a chill went down my spine when it clicked. Guess you had to be there....
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KLAATU
Dec 31, 2006 13:18:12 GMT -5
Post by Doc on Dec 31, 2006 13:18:12 GMT -5
Well certainly some aspect of her seems to have blessed the music with a heavenly vibration. That's the only way I can describe it. It was AWESOME, and I couldn't believe that nobody else seemed to be noticing. Now whether she and I go way back to the planet Zib-Floomp-Gorax 7, in the Crab Nebula, I can't say. But I think she must have been acting as an angel, cheering up a down-on-his-luck Earthling, because when I heard the "Hear the joyful angels singing" line again years later, after being told that she was "here", it hit me like a ton of bricks, and I instantly understood that she had been at the pizza parlor. Not like a ghost, but in me, by way of the music. What I'm trying to say is this: that somehow, listening to the tape at the pizza place, I had tuned into the spirit of the music, and it was as if I was hearing it the way God heard her sing it, for lack of a better way of putting it, and then, when I went home and heard that line years later, I suddenly understood consciously that what I had heard was the voice of an angel. It was as if I was being told that the "angelic" voice of Karen Carpenter was, in fact, the angelic voice of Karen Carpenter, but not verbally, but through some sort of "knowing"; and a chill went down my spine when it clicked. Guess you had to be there.... Ah, yes, telepathic revelation in the midst of a musical intervention, I've heard of this happening before. Quite a phenomenon one can't believe till one is seated (or standing) smack-dab in the middle of one. Even the simple (but beautiful) carol, "Hark, the Herald Angels Sing" begins with an angelic "trigger word", "Hark", which the Angel Realms have found to be particularly potent over the centuries. We only THINK that it's an English word. On Zib-Floomp-Gorax 7, in the Crab Nebula, it means more than it does in English. It means "All you flabby and deaf planetary creatures, look up and pay attention, because we are here to give you a really GIGANTIC spiritually saturated message right now, night here, have you got that and are you listening 'cuz here comes the blessing!" There's a whole lot going on inside of "Hark."
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KLAATU
Jan 2, 2007 19:56:59 GMT -5
Post by JoJo on Jan 2, 2007 19:56:59 GMT -5
Apollo C Vermouth wrote: Along the bottom edge of the front cover is a row of shrubs. It is said that the letters spelling B-e-a-t-l-e-s can be found in the tangle of limbs.Maybe, and the final "S" is the only one that really jumps out at me, and the "B" and the "A" just aren't there for me.. but this is my take, and take it for what you wish..
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KLAATU
Jan 2, 2007 23:04:45 GMT -5
Post by JoJo on Jan 2, 2007 23:04:45 GMT -5
I wonder.. Looking at the much smaller version, it looks like maybe the blue sky and sun part is overlayed onto some other picture. (the one on the right is a "Ram Sphinx")
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KLAATU
Jan 2, 2007 23:12:14 GMT -5
Post by fourthousandholes on Jan 2, 2007 23:12:14 GMT -5
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KLAATU
Jan 2, 2007 23:41:06 GMT -5
Post by fourthousandholes on Jan 2, 2007 23:41:06 GMT -5
What about this stuff?www.beatlesagain.com/breflib/klaatu.html"...A University of Miami voice print test on Klaatu and McCartney recordings which proved the lead vocalist was the same. - Australian disc jockey with evidence to show that the 'Klaatu' album was an unreleased Beatles album called 'Sun' (the cover for 'Klaatu' depicts a smiling sun) - Playing 'Sub Rosa Subway' backwards, using a low speed frequency ocillator and filters revealed the message 'Its us, its the Beeeeetles!' " Perhaps the image under the sun was going to be used for the "Sun" album?
Has anyone done the, "It's us the Beatles" clip in computer land?
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KLAATU
Jan 3, 2007 0:09:36 GMT -5
Post by fourthousandholes on Jan 3, 2007 0:09:36 GMT -5
www.klaatu.org/klaatu1.htmlKlaatu Identities and Beatles Rumors by David Bradley Klaatu Who are they? In 1976 a rumor started circulating in the United States that the Beatles had recorded and released a new album under the pseudonym of "Klaatu" and sales of that record shot way up. The rumor went something like this: The Beatles supposedly recorded an album in mid 1966 that was to be a follow up to Revolver but the master tapes were mysteriously "lost" from the studio. The Beatles didn't want to re-record the album as Paul had (supposedly) just died in a car accident. When Billy Shears (a Paul McCartney look alike contest winner) stepped in to fill the space left by Paul's death, the Beatles stopped touring and recorded a new album that eventually turned out to be "Sgt. Pepper." This explains the long gap between Revolver and Sgt. Pepper and also the change in musical direction. Meanwhile, in 1975, the missing masters were uncovered during research for the Beatles' story project titled, The Long And Winding Road (which eventually became 1995's Beatles Anthology) and the band decided to release the album as a tribute to the late Paul McCartney. They decided on a release with no credit shown to songwriters and no photos so that the album would sell on the merits of the music contained therein and not on any "Beatles hype" (similar to Paul giving away a song to Peter and Gordon in the early 60s called "Woman" under the songwriting name of Bernard Webb). What were the clues that made people think that THIS album was the Beatles? 1. The record was on Capitol records, the American record company that had released most of the Beatles' records in the US. 2. The record had no names of band members listed on it anywhere. 3. The record had no producer name on it anywhere. It simply said, "Produced by Klaatu." 4. The record had no songwriter credits other than simply, "All selections composed by Klaatu." 5. The record has a mysterious publisher listed. It says, "All selections published by Klaatu ASCAP/CAPAC." (The US re-issue in 1981 says the songs are published by Welbeck Music Corp/ASCAP and MCA Music/ASCAP) 6. CAPAC (see clue number 5) is the Canadian equivalent of America's ASCAP and Britain's BMI and John Lennon had recently been rumored to be moving to Toronto Canada since the US was trying to deport him. 7. The record had no pictures of band members on it anywhere. 8. On a couple of songs (Calling Occupants, Sub-Rosa Subway) the vocals sound like Paul McCartney & John Lennon. 9. The name Klaatu is taken from the movie "The Day The Earth Stood Still" in which the alien named Klaatu tells his robot Gort to stop hurting people with the command, "Klaatu barada niktu!" On Ringo Starr's Goodnight Vienna album Ringo is seen coming out of the spaceship from that movie and is standing next to Gort. 10. When Sgt. Pepper had been released, the inner sleeve showed Paul McCartney with a patch on his uniform which read O.P.D. Although many interpretations of this have come and gone, one of them was used in the Paul is dead myth, "Officially Presumed Dead". During the song Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III on their first album, the lyrics state, "Officially Presumed Is Dead." Thanks to the outtakes of the Sgt. Pepper picture that are included with the CD we can now see that the patch says O.P.P. which stands for Ontario Provincial Police. Since John Lennon had been rumoured to be moving to Ontario, this fits the rumour that Klaatu was the Beatles quite nicely. 11. Capitol Records USA messed up a song title [does this surprise us?] on the original release, listing it as Sir Bodsworth Rubblesby III. This mistake carried onto their subsequent reissues until the first CD issue on Capitol which finally corrected this error. Says Crazy Ray, of WDRC (*see below*) in Waterbury, CT, "If you were to define Bods, Worth, Rubbles, and By, it would mean 'persons of importance born of quarry.' The Beatles were first known as the Quarrymen." 12. Beetles are heard to be chirping and buzzing at the start of Calling Occupants. (Sounds more like Crickets and some birds to me.....) 13. The song title, Sub-Rosa Subway was thought to be a take off on Paul's Red Rose Speedway. 14. In Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III there is the line, "he's the only man who's ever been to hell and come back alive." Some people thought that this was a reference to the Paul is Dead rumor which states that Paul died in 1966 in a car crash and was replaced with a look-alike making it seem like he had come back alive. 15. While there are 8 trees pictured right at the very bottom of the front cover of the band's first album, only 7 have their roots showing. There are 7 letters in the name Beatles. 16. On the back cover of the first album is a two colored planet. Some took this to be an allusion to Paul's album, "Venus and Mars". 17. On Abbey Road the Beatles sing about the "Sun King". The Klaatu album covers all have a picture of the sun on them. 18. The initials for the Beatles last album, Abbey Road, are AR. If spelled backwards that becomes RA which is the name of the Egyptian god of the sun. See number 17 for the "sun" connection. 19. On the Sir Army Suit album is a song called Mr. Manson - it is about Charles Manson. Charles Manson is the mass murderer who claimed the Beatles were messengers from God sending messages to him directly. 20. Also on Sir Army Suit is an interesting piece of recording technology for 1978. The song Silly Boys has very strange sounding vocals. The lyrics are hard to understand as a result. This prompted me to look at the lyric sheet from the original album. The lyrics are printed backwards. And by backwards I don't mean like this, "utaalK", I mean physically backwards. If you hold the lyric sheet to a mirror you can read the lyrics perfectly fine! (This applies to this song only.) SO, this gave me the idea to play the song backwards. It contains the lyrics to Anus of Uranus from their first album when played backwards! Some of the lines have been re-recorded using a vocoder and some have had heavy effects added, but the lyrics are all there. So, when the song is played forwards you hear the lyrics to Silly Boys. When the song is played backwards you hear the lyrics to Anus of Uranus. Very Cool! - (The Beatles pioneered backwards tape use...) 21. On the Magentalane album there is a song called December Dream - it is about the death of John Lennon. "Don't cry darling, don't cry, we all will die." "The darkest nightmare..." "December Dream, don't leave me now." "December Dream, don't let me down." (John Lennon was murdered in December of 1980 and had written a song with the Beatles called Don't Let Me Down.) 22. The Beatles connection was confirmed in 1988 when the band reunited to record ONE new song called "Woman" which was an allusion to Paul's song that he had given to Peter and Gordon in the early 60s under a pseudonym and also to John's song Woman from his Double Fantasy album which was released just before his death. This song alledgedly contained an old John studio-recorded demo which had been added to by Billy Shears (as Paul McCartney), George Harrison & Ringo Starr. How did these rumors get started? A Providence, RI newspaper (The Providence Journal) ran an article by a rock music writer named Steve Smith which stated "Could Klaatu be the Beatles? Mystery is a Magical Mystery Tour." Smith concluded that Klaatu was more than likely in part or in whole the Beatles. Charlie Parker at WDRC(*see below*) in Hartford, CT said on air that it was, "a marvelous experience" to listen to this album and asked, "Who are Klaatu? Are the Beatles really back?" and suddenly Capitol records had to ship another 20,000 copies to that region of the country. All this led people to think this was the Beatles. If it wasn't them, then why not put their names and their pictures on it? The New Musical Express (a prominent music newspaper in England during the Beatles' time) ran an article with the headline, "Deaf idiot journalist starts Beatle rumour." But despite that and denials from the band (through spokesman Frank Davies) the rumor persisted and the band's album continued to sell in large quantities. In 1980 the band came out with it's 4th album (which also ended up being the last album released in the US by them) called Endangered Species. This time the album gave us some information. It said the songs were published by Klaatoons, but it told us that the album was produced by Christopher Bond. The songs also gave writing credit to Long, Woloschuk, and Tome. Were these the names of Klaatu members? The following note was also included in the liner notes for the album: "Nota Bene: There are three accepted definitions applied when describing the status of declining wildlife: rare, threatened and ENDANGERED SPECIES. The most recent figures published in the Red Data Book, as issued by the International Union for the Conservation of Nature and Natural Resources, indicate that there are at least 340 animals and 20,000 plants listed as endangered species. Experts throughout the world agree that unless immediate and effective measures are implemented to protect the existence of these life forms, their final outcome will inevitably be . . . extinction. Spring, 1980 Terry Draper, Dee Long, John Woloschuk For more information, please contact: I.U.C.N., 1110 Morges, Switzerland" The album also contained an address to write to the band: write: Klaatu P.O. Box 1030 Oak Ridges, Ontario Canada L0G 1P0 So now we had songwriting credits to three people and a note from three people (2 of whom had been part of the songwriting credits). Are these the members of Klaatu? Klaatu actually are: John Woloschuk - vocals - bass - guitar - keyboards Terry Draper - vocals - drums - guitar - keyboards - slide trombone Dee Long - vocals - guitar - keyboards and there is no Beatles connection on their albums at all. There's more, but it's a bit muddled and misleading, so I've not printed it.
Can anyone verify this statement?: "At a Paul McCartney concert last summer....[1999].... his final statement was, "I will see you when the earth stands still.""
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KLAATU
Jan 3, 2007 1:08:58 GMT -5
Post by il ras on Jan 3, 2007 1:08:58 GMT -5
Just one note: the Earth is really slowing down
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KLAATU
Jan 3, 2007 1:39:40 GMT -5
Post by il ras on Jan 3, 2007 1:39:40 GMT -5
Another (crazy, I know) couple of things come in my mind about the song "Sub-rosa Speedway". It, as you know, means "under-the-rose speedway". Another reference to the underworld? It also recalls me "the line of the rose" that, among others, the "Da Vinci code" mentioned.
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KLAATU
Jan 3, 2007 1:40:14 GMT -5
Post by Doc on Jan 3, 2007 1:40:14 GMT -5
Just one note: the Earth is really slowing down If so, then it will soon begin to wobble, as ocean currents, tectonic movement, and the already out-of-sync relationship of the mantle and core's rotation lead to stresses of the whole system. I think of a washing machine in the spin cycle with an unbalanced load. [Will it sling people to the moon, get real windy, or merely render the populace a universal case of sea-sickness? Stock up on Dramamine, folks. Is that how the end will come? 6.5 billion people tossing their cookies? I can see the bumper sticker now: "No nuke, all puke." Sorry, I digress.......] Sadly, there'll be no buzzing alarm (*BBBAAARRRRRNNNHHHH!!!!*) of the washing machine to warn us; unless that's happening now and 'they"* just don't want tell us about it. * Sorry. I used the undefinable "they" word again.
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KLAATU
Jan 3, 2007 1:49:32 GMT -5
Post by il ras on Jan 3, 2007 1:49:32 GMT -5
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KLAATU
Jan 3, 2007 1:53:27 GMT -5
Post by Doc on Jan 3, 2007 1:53:27 GMT -5
Another (crazy, I know) couple of things come in my mind about the song "Sub-rosa Speedway". It, as you know, means "under-the-rose speedway". Another reference to the underworld? It also recalls me "the line of the rose" that, among others, the "Da Vinci code" mentioned. Yes, secretive, unspoken. Subway-speedway---- An answering to? And this: QUOTE: 20. Also on Sir Army Suit is an interesting piece of recording technology for 1978. The song Silly Boys has very strange sounding vocals. The lyrics are hard to understand as a result. This prompted me to look at the lyric sheet from the original album. The lyrics are printed backwards. And by backwards I don't mean like this, "utaalK", I mean physically backwards. If you hold the lyric sheet to a mirror you can read the lyrics perfectly fine! (This applies to this song only.) SO, this gave me the idea to play the song backwards. It contains the lyrics to Anus of Uranus from their first album when played backwards! Some of the lines have been re-recorded using a vocoder and some have had heavy effects added, but the lyrics are all there. So, when the song is played forwards you hear the lyrics to Silly Boys. When the song is played backwards you hear the lyrics to Anus of Uranus. Very Cool! - (The Beatles pioneered backwards tape use...) OK, so, yes, there is an art to anticipating what he reverse lyric will sound as. Proof positive. I must hear this myself. So maybe ol' John Winston was getting this in play early on. Dude. Whatta rude n' shrewd word-nerd he be. (I mean rude here as "courageous", or "daring", although that could also meld over into "stupid" or "dangerous".)
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KLAATU
Jan 3, 2007 1:57:18 GMT -5
Post by Doc on Jan 3, 2007 1:57:18 GMT -5
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KLAATU
Jan 3, 2007 2:06:07 GMT -5
Post by Doc on Jan 3, 2007 2:06:07 GMT -5
But, more O/T, about Klaatu---I guess what I tend to believe is that the Beatles weren't necessarily UNinvolved. I mean, the PR only credits these other fine artists, Long, Woloschok and Draper, as being a part of the production but not an exclusive one. It doesn't claim in the negative, anywhere, that NO Beatle at anytime was involved in any capacity. While this is a trifle intangible, and provides only crumbs for us to stand upon, it does leave the door cracked open a few inches, to say nothing of the bathroom window, which as legend would have it, is open wide.. ;D Really I need so little excuse to go banshee with the emoticons tonight.
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KLAATU
Jan 3, 2007 2:12:04 GMT -5
Post by il ras on Jan 3, 2007 2:12:04 GMT -5
Yes, and (you will not believe me) it orbits the Sun! ;D ;D BTW, I don't think that the link you posted is in contradiction with mine
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KLAATU
Jan 3, 2007 3:35:13 GMT -5
Post by mysteryboy on Jan 3, 2007 3:35:13 GMT -5
Just a quick note. In the film, the Alien took on the name Carpenter.
I don't remember where i heard this, but was led to believe the Lp was in fact recorded at Abbey Road studios. It certainly sounds like it was and it has the supreme quality of a Martin production. The first album remains an "A" class recording in many audiophile circles.
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KLAATU
Jan 3, 2007 4:10:08 GMT -5
Post by Doc on Jan 3, 2007 4:10:08 GMT -5
Yes, and (you will not believe me) it orbits the Sun! ;D ;D BTW, I don't think that the link you posted is in contradiction with mine Actually I posted it as an agreement. I know. Third Rock. Round and Round and all that. Every year, another big twist around Old Sol. The big annual slingshot elliptical parade of solidified Dust of the Earth around the Big Helium Fission Machine. Wee. What fun. Hardly feels like we're moving. Until I stand up. Oh yea, the Bailey's.
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KLAATU
Jan 3, 2007 4:19:40 GMT -5
Post by Doc on Jan 3, 2007 4:19:40 GMT -5
Just a quick note. In the film, the Alien took on the name Carpenter. I don't remember where i heard this, but was led to believe the Lp was in fact recorded at Abbey Road studios. It certainly sounds like it was and it has the supreme quality of a Martin production. The first album remains an "A" class recording in many audiophile circles. Oh, well "Karen" might have been a bit confusing for the audience. I love the first and second albums. I don't think I know the last two, and I may have a few songs from the middle one. It's amazing stuff, and to think the first one was made in '77, right? They didn't have Pro-tools etc. back then, and that album is immaculate for time, intonation, mix, etc. Well mastered.
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KLAATU
Jan 3, 2007 4:58:18 GMT -5
Post by Doc on Jan 3, 2007 4:58:18 GMT -5
The only one who's been to hell and come back.......
Near Death Experience? Legally, clinically dead, with a hair raising spiritual excursion through a dreadful dreadful place? And then resuscitated after 20 minutes? Yet not brain dead or damaged in any long lasting way (despite the odds)...........Is this an idea supported by that lyric?
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KLAATU
Jan 3, 2007 7:38:54 GMT -5
Post by beatlies on Jan 3, 2007 7:38:54 GMT -5
Apollo C Vermouth wrote: Along the bottom edge of the front cover is a row of shrubs. It is said that the letters spelling B-e-a-t-l-e-s can be found in the tangle of limbs.Maybe, and the final "S" is the only one that really jumps out at me, and the "B" and the "A" just aren't there for me.. but this is my take, and take it for what you wish.. I see the B and the A ........
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KLAATU
Jan 3, 2007 8:00:53 GMT -5
Post by Doc on Jan 3, 2007 8:00:53 GMT -5
Apollo C Vermouth wrote: Along the bottom edge of the front cover is a row of shrubs. It is said that the letters spelling B-e-a-t-l-e-s can be found in the tangle of limbs.Maybe, and the final "S" is the only one that really jumps out at me, and the "B" and the "A" just aren't there for me.. but this is my take, and take it for what you wish.. I see the B and the A ........ Me too......
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KLAATU
Jan 3, 2007 8:55:23 GMT -5
Post by plastic paul on Jan 3, 2007 8:55:23 GMT -5
Just a quick note. In the film, the Alien took on the name Carpenter. I don't remember where i heard this, but was led to believe the Lp was in fact recorded at Abbey Road studios. It certainly sounds like it was and it has the supreme quality of a Martin production. The first album remains an "A" class recording in many audiophile circles. The Carpenters covered "Calling Occupants..." could there be a connection somewhere?
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KLAATU
Jan 3, 2007 12:34:45 GMT -5
Post by fourthousandholes on Jan 3, 2007 12:34:45 GMT -5
I think the answer to that is, "Ain't no two ways about it." Especially when you take into account the larger picture of what Klaatu represents. As Apollo wrote in reply #14 ""The name KLAATU, came from a 1950s era sci-fi film titled "The Day the Earth Stood Still." As earlier discussed, the name was lifted from the lead character in the film. A still from the film was used by Ringo Starr, with his face super-imposed upon the Klaatu character for his album "Goodnight Vienna." "Now, everybody, what is Apollo's favorite saying? (All Together Now): "There's nothing you can see that isn't shown." Well, in this case, what is shown? Ringo is in the alien's place from the movie poster. Ringo is Klaatu, or "Mr. Carpenter" as his Earth identity was known. And, oh by the way, did you notice the star on Ringo's shirt? Does it remind you of someone who wore a star shirt when he performed at the Super Bowl? Perhaps the point is that when you wear a star shirt, it's supposed to show that you're a star person; someone from the stars. In any case, Ringo is in the role of Klaatu, or "Mr. Carpenter", an alien who appears to be an Earthling. So then, could someone who appears to be an Earthling actually be an alien (hypothetically)? Well...yes.... So then, could someone who appeared to be an Earthling, named Carpenter, really be an alien? I think that was the idea that was meant to be conveyed by having "Miss Carpenter" sing "Calling Occupants." Even if the decision to sing the song was her own choice, the subconscious motives may have been deeper. If she was, unbeknownst even to herself, on some deeper level aware that she herself was an alien, she may have chosen to express the fact by singing a song like "Calling Occupants", or she may have been on a mission as one of "them" to sing the song as a means of putting the notion of calling for aliens into the consciousness of humanity. If that sounds a bit "out there", I would point you to reply #11 at this thread on the guest board: jojoplace.org/NIR_Guest_Board/YaBB.pl?num=1166721795/0The person speaks of being just such a person; someone who passes for an Earthling, but is, in his own words, someone who was "a god".
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KLAATU
Jan 3, 2007 12:58:14 GMT -5
Post by beatlies on Jan 3, 2007 12:58:14 GMT -5
Just a quick note. In the film, the Alien took on the name Carpenter. I don't remember where i heard this, but was led to believe the Lp was in fact recorded at Abbey Road studios. It certainly sounds like it was and it has the supreme quality of a Martin production. The first album remains an "A" class recording in many audiophile circles. The Carpenters covered "Calling Occupants..." could there be a connection somewhere? The "WALRUS" and the Carpenter?
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