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Post by thespacebetween on Jul 5, 2008 23:44:26 GMT -5
..and now , to the crux of the biscuit... I told you 'bout the Fool on the Hill I tell you man, he livin' there still... There was an old woman Lived under a hill and if she's not gone, she lives there still. ...therefore, if one were to consider the possibility that Lennon was making coded references with the lyrics of Glass Onion, then one might make the assertions from the above lyrics that : a) she ( the old woman) is he ( the fool) b) he is alive ( he livin' there still) c) he is here ( he's not gone ) d) a) b) and c) are being pointed out with care, as though the contrary had been alluded to previously. Cry Baby Cry ... At twelve o'clock a meeting round the table For a seance in the dark With voices out of nowhere Put on specially by the children for a lark. ... The children 'staged' the voices out of nowhere at the seance, round the table, a turn table perhaps....the back masking on Pepper, the 'clues'( I Buried Paul/Cranberry Sauce), the mirrored bass drum... for a lark..for fun and mischief...suggesting something considerably less than dire... However.. Cry Baby Cry Make your mother sigh She's old enough to know better So cry baby cry ..... Cry, baby, cry, Put your finger in your eye, And tell your mother it wasn't I Seems to lend a regretful, accusatory tone to the tale.. 'It seems very pretty,' she said when she had finished it, 'but it's RATHER hard to understand!' (You see she didn't like to confess, ever to herself, that she couldn't make it out at all.) 'Somehow it seems to fill my head with ideas--only I don't exactly know what they are! However, SOMEBODY killed SOMETHING :that's clear, at any rate--'
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Post by thespacebetween on Jul 3, 2008 22:59:14 GMT -5
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Post by thespacebetween on Jul 3, 2008 22:47:16 GMT -5
Not to rain on anyone's parade but.... This picture is neither proof of a fake ear nor of a detached earlobe... ..it is proof of of how visual ambiguity can allow for dogmatic beliefs to color the perception of reality. Depending on the angle of lighting, attached earlobes can look detached if the shadow cast by the ear lobe itself falls on the crease between the lobe and head.
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Post by thespacebetween on Jul 3, 2008 0:41:58 GMT -5
"Lily" was Alice in the looking glass world..
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Post by thespacebetween on Jun 30, 2008 3:23:34 GMT -5
...There's another place you can go Where everything flows..
Chapter 5 Wool and Water
'What is it you want to buy?' the Sheep said at last, looking up for a moment from her knitting.
'I don't QUITE know yet,' Alice said, very gently. 'I should like to look all round me first, if I might.'
'You may look in front of you, and on both sides, if you like,' said the Sheep: 'but you can't look ALL round you--unless you've got eyes at the back of your head.'
But these, as it happened, Alice had NOT got: so she contented herself with turning round, looking at the shelves as she came to them.
The shop seemed to be full of all manner of curious things-- but the oddest part of it all was, that whenever she looked hard at any shelf, to make out exactly what it had on it, that particular shelf was always quite empty: though the others round it were crowded as full as they could hold.
'Things flow about so here!' she said at last in a plaintive tone, after she had spent a minute or so in vainly pursuing a large bright thing, that looked sometimes like a doll and sometimes like a work-box, and was always in the shelf next above the one she was looking at. 'And this one is the most provoking of all--but I'll tell you what--' she added, as a sudden thought struck her, 'I'll follow it up to the very top shelf of all. It'll puzzle it to go through the ceiling, I expect!'
But even this plan failed: the 'thing' went through the ceiling as quietly as possible, as if it were quite used to it....
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'Then I hope your finger is better now?' Alice said very politely, as she crossed the little brook after the Queen.
'Oh, much better!' cried the Queen, her voice rising to a squeak as she went on. 'Much be-etter! Be-etter! Be-e-e-etter! Be-e-ehh!' The last word ended in a long bleat, so like a sheep that Alice quite started. .... Hey Jude Hey Jude, don't make it bad take a sad song and make it better Remember to let her under your skin Then you can begin to make it better Better, better, better, better, better, oh
Picture yourself in a boat on a river ....
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Post by thespacebetween on Jun 16, 2008 14:09:59 GMT -5
Here she checked herself in some alarm, at hearing something that sounded to her like the puffing of a large steam-engine in the wood near them, though she feared it was more likely to be a wild beast. 'Are there any lions or tigers about here?' she asked timidly. 'It's only the Red King snoring,' said Tweedledee. 'Come and look at him!' the brothers cried, and they each took one of Alice's hands, and led her up to where the King was sleeping. 'Isn't he a LOVELY sight?' said Tweedledum. Alice couldn't say honestly that he was. He had a tall red night-cap on, with a tassel, and he was lying crumpled up into a sort of untidy heap, and snoring loud--'fit to snore his head off!' as Tweedledum remarked. 'I'm afraid he'll catch cold with lying on the damp grass,' said Alice, who was a very thoughtful little girl. 'He's dreaming now,' said Tweedledee: 'and what do you think he's dreaming about?' Alice said 'Nobody can guess that.' 'Why, about YOU!' Tweedledee exclaimed, clapping his hands triumphantly. 'And if he left off dreaming about you, where do you suppose you'd be?' 'Where I am now, of course,' said Alice. 'Not you!' Tweedledee retorted contemptuously. 'You'd be nowhere. Why, you're only a sort of thing in his dream!' 'If that there King was to wake,' added Tweedledum, 'you'd go out--bang!--just like a candle!' 'I shouldn't!' Alice exclaimed indignantly. 'Besides, if I'M only a sort of thing in his dream, what are YOU, I should like to know?' 'Ditto' said Tweedledum. 'Ditto, ditto' cried Tweedledee. He shouted this so loud that Alice couldn't help saying, 'Hush! You'll be waking him, I'm afraid, if you make so much noise.' 'Well, it no use YOUR talking about waking him,' said Tweedledum, 'when you're only one of the things in his dream. You know very well you're not real.' 'I AM real!' said Alice and began to cry. 'You won't make yourself a bit realler by crying,' Tweedledee remarked: ' there's nothing to cry about.'
'If I wasn't real,' Alice said--half-laughing through her tears, it all seemed so ridiculous--'I shouldn't be able to cry.' 'I hope you don't suppose those are real tears?' Tweedledum interrupted in a tone of great contempt. 'I know they're talking nonsense,' Alice thought to herself: 'and it's foolish to cry about it.' So she brushed away her tears, and went on as cheerfully as she could. Let me take you down, 'cause I'm going to Strawberry Fields. Nothing is real and nothing to get hungabout. Strawberry Fields forever. Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see. It's getting hard to be someone but it all works out, it doesn't matter much to me. Let me take you down, 'cause I'm going to Strawberry Fields. Nothing is real and nothing to get hungabout. Strawberry Fields forever. No one I think is in my tree, I mean it must be high or low. That is you can't you know tune in but it's all right, that is I think it's not too bad. Let me take you down, 'cause I'm going to Strawberry Fields. Nothing is real and nothing to get hungabout. Strawberry Fields forever. Always, no sometimes, think it's me, but you know I know and it's a dream. I think I know I mean a 'Yes' but it's all wrong, that is I think I disagree. Let me take you down, 'cause I'm going to Strawberry Fields. Nothing is real and nothing to get hungabout. Strawberry Fields forever. Strawberry Fields forever. -btw Jo, cool fade...horseshoes and hand-grenades perhaps?
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Post by thespacebetween on Jun 15, 2008 4:34:45 GMT -5
PortmanteauQuote- The usage of the word 'portmanteau' in this sense first appeared in Lewis Carroll's book Through the Looking-Glass (1871), in which Humpty Dumpty explains to Alice the coinage of the unusual words in Jabberwocky
* "‘slithy’ means ‘lithe and slimy’... You see it's like a portmanteau—there are two meanings packed up into one word" * "‘Mimsy’ is ‘flimsy and miserable’ (there's another portmanteau ... for you)". Carroll uses the word again when discussing lexical selection: Humpty Dumpty's theory, of two meanings packed into one word like a portmanteau, seems to me the right explanation for all. For instance, take the two words "fuming" and "furious." Make up your mind that you will say both words ... you will say "frumious." Carroll suggests here a double metaphor: the original meaning of the word 'portmanteau' is a form of suitcase (which supports the idea that meanings can be 'packed' into it), and the word 'portmanteau' is itself a 'portmanteau word', deriving from the two French words porter (to carry) and manteau (cloak or mantle). See how they smile like pigs in a sty, see how they snied.I'm crying. Snied- a portmanteau of cried and sneezed? Like the pig/baby (another portmanteau of sorts) the Duchess was nursing? Sneezing/crying from the pepper the cook put into everything? I am the Eggman-Humpty Dumpty of course-a Looking Glass tie... 'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves Did gyre and gimble in the wabe: All mimsy were the borogoves, And the mome raths outgrabe. "Beware the Jabberwock, my son! The jaws that bite, the claws that catch! Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun The frumious Bandersnatch!" He took his vorpal sword in hand: Long time the manxome foe he sought -- So rested he by the Tumtum tree, And stood awhile in thought And as in uffish thought he stood, The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame, Came whiffling through the tulgey wood, And burbled as it came! One, two! One, two! and through and through The vorpal blade went snicker-snack! He left it dead, and with its head He went galumphing back. "And has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!" He chortled in his joy. 'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves Did gyre and gimble in the wabe: All mimsy were the borogoves, And the mome raths outgrabe. Jubjub = Goo Goog Goo Joob?
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Post by thespacebetween on Jun 14, 2008 18:58:09 GMT -5
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Post by thespacebetween on Jun 14, 2008 17:50:57 GMT -5
Picture yourself on a train in a station, With plasticine porters with looking glass ties, Suddenly someone is there at the turnstyle, The girl with the kaleidoscope eyes. Looking at the skies AriesThrough kaleidoscope eyes. TeleidoscopeThrough a fish eye lens so? if you have two eyes to see and one or two lenses, each a lens or mirror of incidence, you still have the property of the space between, which is debatable. didn't iaap show a glass lens or ball a few times early on? I don't know if 'close up' is the right way to describe what I meant to say. On one end of a spyglass or telescope, you have a very small, circular eye-piece and the other end has a very large circular lens. Put a hand on each end and press them together to make the spyglass fit in your pocket and you might see the concentric circle pattern that you see in an onion's horizontal cross section. An onion's vertical cross section looks more like a typical lens. Look at the concentric circle cross section of the onion, imagine that you pinch the smallest center circle with your fingers and pull it upwards, similar to a spyglass. Of course, you'd have to imagine that the onion's layers were all connected. Tunnel vision? Wormhole? `Curiouser and curiouser!' cried Alice (she was so much surprised, that for the moment she quite forgot how to speak good English); `now I'm opening out like the largest telescope that ever was! Good-bye, feet!' (for when she looked down at her feet, they seemed to be almost out of sight, they were getting so far off). ...... I'm crying I'm crying, I'm crying...
.......As she said these words her foot slipped, and in another moment, splash! she was up to her chin in salt water. Her first idea was that she had somehow fallen into the sea, `and in that case I can go back by railway,' she said to herself. (Alice had been to the seaside once in her life, and had come to the general conclusion, that wherever you go to on the English coast you find a number of bathing machines in the sea, some children digging in the sand with wooden spades, then a row of lodging houses, and behind them a railway station.) However, she soon made out that she was in the pool of tears which she had wept when she was nine feet high. `I wish I hadn't cried so much!' said Alice, as she swam about, trying to find her way out. `I shall be punished for it now, I suppose, by being drowned in my own tears! That WILL be a queer thing, to be sure! However, everything is queer to-day.' Just then she heard something splashing about in the pool a little way off, and she swam nearer to make out what it was: at first she thought it must be a walrus or hippopotamus, but then she remembered how small she was now, and she soon made out that it was only a mouse that had slipped in like herself. ...................... This time Alice waited patiently until it chose to speak again. In a minute or two the Caterpillar took the hookah out of its mouth and yawned once or twice, and shook itself. Then it got down off the mushroom, and crawled away in the grass, merely remarking as it went, `One side will make you grow taller, and the other side will make you grow shorter.' `One side of WHAT? The other side of WHAT?' thought Alice to herself. `Of the mushroom,' said the Caterpillar, just as if she had asked it aloud; and in another moment it was out of sight. Alice remained looking thoughtfully at the mushroom for a minute, trying to make out which were the two sides of it; and as it was perfectly round, she found this a very difficult question. However, at last she stretched her arms round it as far as they would go, and broke off a bit of the edge with each hand. `And now which is which?' she said to herself, and nibbled a little of the right-hand bit to try the effect: the next moment she felt a violent blow underneath her chin: it had struck her foot! She was a good deal frightened by this very sudden change, but she felt that there was no time to be lost, as she was shrinking rapidly; so she set to work at once to eat some of the other bit. Her chin was pressed so closely against her foot, that there was hardly room to open her mouth; but she did it at last, and managed to swallow a morsel of the lefthand bit. Note the piece missing from the edge...and that the klaatu mushroom is in the same place as the hookah/caterpillar on the Pepper cover The Duchess? ....Chapter 6 , Pig and Pepper...
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Post by thespacebetween on May 27, 2008 1:03:44 GMT -5
www.globemakers.com/facsimile/globe_alice.html Alice's Globe - where the characters of 'Alice in Wonderland' and 'Through the Looking Glass' match a known constellation in the heavens. "the term 'Looking Glass' is an old fashioned way of describing a telescope, curiouser t hat an astronomical telescope inverts/reverses the image being viewed in the same way that a mirror does. Curiouser still, because of this reversion, celestial globes are published depicting the stars in reverse, enabling the celestial globe to be used in conjunction with the telescope eliminating confusion. I believe that this is why Dodgson settled for 'Looking Glass' in his title. I also think it more than coincidence that so many celestial matches are to be found in Looking Glass." Sitting in the stand of the sports arena (Sitting in an English Garden) Waiting for the show to begin (Waiting for the Sun) Red lights, green lights, strawberry wine,(Strawberry Fields Forever) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tara_Browne He blew his mind out in a car, He didn't notice that the lights had changed, A crowd of people stood and stared, They'd seen his face before, Nobody was really sure If he was from the House of Lords. A good friend of mine, follows the stars, The stars behind the Band in Funny Suits. Stars in the sky, stars of entertainment, flowers in the dirt, flowers on the wizards cloaks, lenses in telescopes, cameras, spectacles.. Venus and Mars Are alright tonight. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_and_Mars_(Botticelli)Quote- Botticelli's theme is that the power of love can defeat the warrior's strength. www.nationalgallery.org.uk/cgi-bin/WebObjects.dll/CollectionPublisher.woa/wa/work?workNumber=ng915Quote- Mars, god of war, was one of the lovers of Venus, goddess of love. Here Mars is asleep and unarmed, while Venus is awake and alert. The meaning of the picture is that love conquers war, or love conquers all. Love is all you need..and peace with flowers. www.getty.edu/art/gettyguide/artObjectDetails?artobj=140176Quote- In the 1600s, the subject of Venus disarming her lover Mars was understood as an allegory of Peace en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VenusQuote- Venus reaches its maximum brightness shortly before sunrise or shortly after sunset, for which reason it is often called the Morning Star or the Evening Star. It is the brightest natural object in the night sky, except for the Moon Star light, star bright, The first star I see tonight, I wish I may, I wish I might, Have the wish I wish tonight As an aside...The Walrus eats oysters, Oysters make Pearls. Margaret means Pearl. Maggie is a form of Margaret. Rita is a form of Margaret. Lovely Maggie, Lovely Rita.... The Walrus was Paul.
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Post by thespacebetween on May 25, 2008 14:10:51 GMT -5
I've noticed that Paul's original unchipped tooth was twisted.. Post pepper pics show an untwisted tooth. Any big smile pics post chippage but pre pepper?
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Post by thespacebetween on May 24, 2008 22:34:17 GMT -5
I knew a man who actually wore a monocle, and I personally saw this several times. At no time was a hand involved. LoL. you need two eyes to sea. did you know ancient artifacts include "glass lenses" that predate modern history of the current concepts (and not widley accredited) the telescopic lens? Of course, I've known for some time...I've had this book since it was published... www.robert-temple.com/crystalSunMain.htmlRead it and you'll understand why I'm TheSpaceBetween and I'm in The Tiny Gap. Quote- The quizzing glass is a sort of monocle held to one's eye with a long handle, in a similar fashion to a lorgnette. Lenses magnify detail... When was the Sgt Pepper cover index first published?
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Post by thespacebetween on May 24, 2008 18:16:20 GMT -5
Glass Onion-Song-WikipediaGlass onion-Definition-WikipediaQuote- In England, a monocle is also referred to as a "glass onion". Quote- "Glass onion" is British slang for a monocle.Ringo's Rotogravure.Ringo is holding the magnifying glass to his eye as a monocle. Rotogravure is a process of printing large runs of color images usually in roll form. Album covers, I believe, would have been printed using the rotogravure process. I understand that , according to this page, the covers were laminated, that is, separately printed "slicks" were glued to the blank cardboard sleeves. The slicks were probably mass printed on roll stock using the rotogravure process and then cut and affixed to the sleeves. The back cover of Rotogravure, was the door of #3 Savile Row and has been discussed on this thread. In the song Glass Onion, I believe John is telling us to look closer at the cover(s) of Sgt Pepper and Magical Mystery Tour using a magnifying glass and to 'look' closer at the lyrics of the songs referenced in Glass Onion. Ringo seems to be clarifying this with Rotogravure. Remember, Pepper was supposed to come with 'extras' similar to the magnifying glass 'extra' that came with Rotogravure. From a press conference in Amsterdam, 1976: Question: There is a photo of the front door of Apple on the back of the cover, where did you get it?
Ringo: Neil Aspinall took it and sent us one each an I thought, "I'm gonna put it on the back of the album." It's a front door, but it's a back door too. It's got all these names scrawled on it from Finland. That's why you're getting a magnifying glass with the album, so you can read it all. And I thought it would be a nice bit of fun, especially for those who actually wrote on it. It used to be so smart, with a doorman and a pretty letterbox, and now it's just...yeah!
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Post by thespacebetween on May 22, 2008 2:07:13 GMT -5
Yeah, that's just 1963 hair.
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Post by thespacebetween on May 18, 2008 17:12:19 GMT -5
What do ya think? I think that's a lens distorted picture of the original Paul. Close up shots with a small lens tend to make the ears flatten to the skull and the face look narrower.
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Post by thespacebetween on May 1, 2008 23:13:35 GMT -5
Well, darnit, I was hoping to give Apollo some hope after all these years and now it's too late. Bugger! Well, my condolences to his family and to his friends on this board. May he rest in peace.
On with the Show!
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Greets
May 1, 2008 21:19:48 GMT -5
Post by thespacebetween on May 1, 2008 21:19:48 GMT -5
Hey greets to you vince! Sorry for the long delays in responding..mega computer headaches conspired to keep me occupied and distracted. Thanks for the warm welcomes, especially you CF . Num Num!
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Post by thespacebetween on Apr 7, 2008 23:52:12 GMT -5
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Greets
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Post by thespacebetween on Apr 12, 2008 16:43:43 GMT -5
Wow, what a smooth operator! Lol, that was a bit forward wasn't it? Seriously though, chocolate and coconut is my favorite dessert combo. I had a crepe the other day with that inside. Yum! Ahoy there, Mommybird, how's the brood? I suppose I should state my purpose as a member of this forum.. I have an interest in the Sgt.Pepper album and the possibility of it being a sort of rosetta stone or coded cipher, revealing the story of how and why Paul McCartney came to be replaced. I have an interest in the postings of Apollo C. Vermouth and I like puzzles! I know that ACV's posts are cryptic and have factionalized the memberships of these forums somewhat. Personally, I have no bone of contention with any of the members here. We are all in this together, whatever our belief systems are. I have some amateur skills in photo comparisons using animated gifs and will do requests for these as well. I have a few on standby for the celebrity flux subforum. Also, anyone needing detailed help with posting pictures for forum posts and avatars, feel free to PM me. and I'll do my best.
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Post by thespacebetween on Apr 9, 2008 23:45:15 GMT -5
i see no space in between ;D Happy birthday!!! oh wait, that's another thread! welcome aboard, yarrr Arrr, another naughty boy for the crew! Glad to see a lighthearted member hereabouts. btw, do I get cake on my birthday or some other nice confection? Come to think of it, coconut fudge sounds really quite delicious...
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Post by thespacebetween on Apr 7, 2008 23:32:38 GMT -5
Hiiii and welcome! Can't wait to hear about your thoughts. Is that your beautiful dog in your avatar? Ahh no, that's not my dog, but he looks just like a buddy of mine, Ripley. I liked the picture , a blue tick barking (howling) up a tree and all. Woof! Hi B and PP.
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Apr 7, 2008 2:29:04 GMT -5
Post by thespacebetween on Apr 7, 2008 2:29:04 GMT -5
Aww heck, may as well join up, the guest forum is dead as a doornail.
Greetings to all the oldtimers and enthusiastic newcomers. Looking forward to some interesting discussions.
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